EXT: Bumper "fog light" Conversion

[accordtunerx]

thanks to cb7tuner member Melt for posting this DIY previously on another forum :tu:

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Here are a couple of diagrams based on the method to do it:

Single Filament Diagram
http://www.cb7tuner.com/conversion1.jpg

Fairly self explanitory ... lights will come on with headlights, and when you hit the blinker the appropriate one will blink, while the other stays solid.

Dual Filament Diagram
http://www.cb7tuner.com/conversion2.jpg

Also pretty easy, there were three wires coming off my dual socket, ground low beam high beam

low blinks, and the high comes on when the headlights are turned on. You can reverse the wires so low come on with lights and high comes on when you hit the blinker, but then they wouldnt really double as fogs now would they.

My moms 91 accord, which has the lows wired to the headlights.. and the highs through the blinker:

http://www.cb7tuner.com/conversionfinal.jpg

[cp[mike]]

i tried splicing the bumper lense's bulb (with the original single filament socket) directly to the corner's always-on-with-the-headlights parking light (the one that turns on when u flick the switch just 1 place), and it made it so both the new bumper driving light AND the original corner parking light NOT light up. i undid the wiring and tried again, and the same thing happened... so it didnt work for me, but it seems to have worked for Melt...

[92accordDx]

i did it on my 92 by getting a 92-95 civic corner socket from a junk yard. It should have three wires on it. i cut my old socket of and matched the two wires up and then ran a wire from my corner light to the third wire that was left from the socket.

[blamethepunx]

did it with a 194 polarg superwhite bulb and harness in my buddy's 95 accord

[fliplyricist1]

I melted a set of euro clears doing the foglight conversion. I guess having the bigger filament on all the time didn't cooperate with the cheap plastic. And having the smaller filament on full-time made it look ultra dim and cheap. I just couldn't win.

[blamethepunx]

w00t! did this the other day, and it looks dope at night

[Melt]

wow i feel honored that my diy was reposted .... anyways heres what my civic looked like with the highs wired to a switch and low on the blinker ... i too ended up melting the housing. Oh well.

http://www.v6performance.net/gallery/data/2/6079night.jpg

Another thing i found out about the single conversion is it WILL NOT work on 5th gen accords, or Canada Domestic Market 4th gen civics. Reason is the corner lenses dont blink at all on those, only bumper lenses.

[xplode]

Melt your 100% rite.. i noticed that on my 5th gen the corners dont blink at all.. which means dual filament is absolute nessesary if u want bumpers to blink too.. after the mod

[Accrdkid]

Hello guys and girls of the CB7tuner site...

Well I recently read the threads for the light conversion for the 92-93 Cb7s. Many of those owners wanted to make the bumper light work in conjunction with the corner lights.

I read how some of those people experimented with it and spliced wires together just to make them work...well now I have a better solution.

As 92AccordDX stated he used a civic socket to make it work, yes indeed you can and thats what I did but to make it easier also grab a harness from a CRX.

But in order to make it so you dont have to tap into any other wire, you can use a corner light socket from a CRX I also used a corner light harness from a 92-95 Civic basically free from the junkyard (I just walked out). I went to the yard this morning and pulled about 3 sets (in case I messed it up).

So heres a tip.

Make sure you have enough wiring when you cut the harness of a CRX you need to find a 88-91 model year for this to work.

Intstructions. (I am not responsible if you mess this up. This is a one time deal if you fuck up then god be with you...your CB7 is gonna hate you if you fuck up. :D)

1. On the corner light of the CB7s cut the corner light harness at the socket(the one thats closest to the headlights BE SURE TO HAVE ENOUGH SLACK).

2. Shave the red and black wire from the corner light.

3. Connect the red and black wire from the CRX socket to the CB7 Harness. Leave the third wire alone for now.

4. If you were smart enough to use a 91 Harness (this is for all you 92-93 owners) then connect the third power wire to the CRX 3rd wire.

5. You know the deal...put everything back together. If you cant then you have some issues.

6.Stand back and admire if you did right...you car loves you.

[MRX]

i don't think it will work for me...i already shorted out the passenger side corner light lol :D along with about 4+ other members on this board

[AccordWarrior]

The Brake Light 1157 Socket from a 3rd gen Accord works and fits perfectly too...and the wire colors stay the same...

[cp[mike]]

ive had my bumper lights turned on with a 1156 bulb in them (same as a 1157,just single filament) and it started to melt the housings. might not happen with OEM housings tho.

[BustedLX]

What's the purpose of this mod? I don't understand what you guys are doing? Are you tring to make the Bumper signal steady burn like a fog light yet still flash?

[WeDgE]

Yes.

[Accrdkid]

Well man its worth a try and if it melts the aftermarket housing its cheap stuff...better off using stock housings

[BustedLX]

So why not use Relays and get it over with, I've been doing these since 96, It's nothing new. Two relays one for each side and that's it, done.

[92accordDx]

use civic bulb sockets. its keeps the bulbs on constantly when your lites are on but will blink with your turn signal.

[BustedLX]

Originally posted by 92accordDx
use civic bulb sockets. its keeps the bulbs on constantly when your lites are on but will blink with your turn signal. lol why would you eve do that? You can use one relay per side and still keep the same bulb and it will flash and stay steady burn.

[Accrdkid]

Originally posted by 92accordDx
use civic bulb sockets. its keeps the bulbs on constantly when your lites are on but will blink with your turn signal.

Thats what im doing for the lower lights..the corners are using CRX units

[AccordWarrior]

I just used the 87 Accord Socket...since its designed for 1157's I've had no melting problems...I'm just not knowledgeable enough with relays to do any of that, and this was just signal to signal, red to corner and black to black...simple as can be...I just wanted to have the look of lower bumper lights that were still functional...just to look a little different than stock...although I'm probably gonna switch em back soon...worried about getting in trouble for 6 forward facing lights...

[Accrdkid]

Originally posted by AccordWarrior
I just used the 87 Accord Socket...since its designed for 1157's I've had no melting problems...I'm just not knowledgeable enough with relays to do any of that, and this was just signal to signal, red to corner and black to black...simple as can be...I just wanted to have the look of lower bumper lights that were still functional...just to look a little different than stock...although I'm probably gonna switch em back soon...worried about getting in trouble for 6 forward facing lights...

Thats the thing about living in Massachusetts....they suck. I just dont know the regulations on the JDM motors Im real serious about a swap in another year or two.

Cpmike you car has really inspired me man..i will not toss my car after all. :D

[accordztech]

i like mine...

if u fuked up one side just run a line from the other side =)

[92accordDx]

Originally posted by BustedLX
lol why would you eve do that? You can use one relay per side and still keep the same bulb and it will flash and stay steady burn.

well its a double filament bulb so this way it wont melt the plastic housing

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by 92accordDx
well its a double filament bulb so this way it wont melt the plastic housing

That's not the point. Its just not necessary to use a double-filament bulb!

[accordztech]

i used dual filament cause i wanted it on dim during night and when i signal i wanted it high

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by accordztech
i used dual filament cause i wanted it on dim during night and when i signal i wanted it high

If its' dim then what's the point? It thought the whole point of this mod was to make them into "driving lights".

[AccordWarrior]

I thought initially with my car it might throw some light, but as soon as I put it on the car I realized it doesn't do much because the lights don't project because of the design of the housing...So in reality they're just like city lights...for show...but I don't mind, I like how they look pretty much, they're not as hyperwhite as I thought they would be, but that could just be my bulb choice...I just felt the socket change was a very simple way to do it...

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by AccordWarrior
I thought initially with my car it might throw some light, but as soon as I put it on the car I realized it doesn't do much because the lights don't project because of the design of the housing...So in reality they're just like city lights...for show...but I don't mind, I like how they look pretty much, they're not as hyperwhite as I thought they would be, but that could just be my bulb choice...I just felt the socket change was a very simple way to do it...

Well then that makes sense:)

[Importkitz]

I used to have clear bumper lense and a hyperwhite bulb that matched my headlights. They look like fog lights if you set it to stay on when you have your lights turned on. It used to blind people. I live in central California and the 5-0's here are dicks. Ive gotten 3 fix-it tickets. Then I put the amber lense back on. They looked great at night. I also used an orange/amber bulb. It made it look even more amber, especially at night. 5-0's didnt bother me anymore after that.

That reminds me, I need to modify my new cb7 bumper lights.

[accordztech]

Originally posted by Importkitz
I used to have clear bumper lense and a hyperwhite bulb that matched my headlights. They look like fog lights if you set it to stay on when you have your lights turned on. It used to blind people. I live in central California and the 5-0's here are dicks. Ive gotten 3 fix-it tickets. Then I put the amber lense back on. They looked great at night. I also used an orange/amber bulb. It made it look even more amber, especially at night. 5-0's didnt bother me anymore after that.

That reminds me, I need to modify my new cb7 bumper lights.

where in central do you live, cops are dicks here! haha...

i didnt wnat to make my bumpers driving lights cause they realyl didnt emit much light, plus i like the dim look...

[Importkitz]

I live in Fresno. Our neighbor town is Clovis and I've gotten 2 of the 3 tickets there. Man they (Clovis 5-0's) hate lowered imports. :idiots:

[accordztech]

i live about 45 minutes from u in sacramento area =)

[Importkitz]

Wow! 45 min. You must drive like a mad man or you just drive like me. :lol:

When is the next NOR Cal meet. I'm in!

[xplode]

now, when wiring up the civic sockets. you just splice old and put new ones on.? do u need to run any additional wiring or no? i want a way to do it without needing to splice.. if thats even possibl,e

[3rdworldakkord]

id like to see an accord with CRX tail`s

[Importkitz]

Originally posted by 3rdworldakkord
id like to see an accord with CRX tail`s

:idiots: I totally disagree! :idiots:

[3rdworldakkord]

it`d be somthing differnt!

[Importkitz]

Originally posted by 3rdworldakkord
it`d be somthing differnt!

Please do it to your accord. I would like to see how different it looks. Please post DIY if you do decide to be different and do the conversion.

[3rdworldakkord]

are you paying for it LOL

[ChIoVnIdCa]

If you wanna c what my bumper lense coversion looks like Click (http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/attachment.php?s=&postid=48523)

[fliplyricist1]

Originally posted by BustedLX
lol why would you eve do that? You can use one relay per side and still keep the same bulb and it will flash and stay steady burn.

I'm interested in this method...any links, man? Just want to know what kind of relays I need, etc.

I had my bumper fogs in the dual filament configuration and IMO it was OK. If you use the high filament as the constant and the low filament as the blinker than it looks kinda ghetto and faint at night. If you do it vice versa, then you can barely notice the signaling during the night and most especially during the day.

Also, when I did this, it would hyperblink. I wanna just use a single filament regular speed setup. Any help would be appreciated...thanks

[3rdworldakkord]

Nice

[accordztech]

Originally posted by Importkitz
Wow! 45 min. You must drive like a mad man or you just drive like me. :lol:

When is the next NOR Cal meet. I'm in!

check pacific forum...there is one comming.

[ChIoVnIdCa]

Originally posted by fliplyricist1
I'm interested in this method...any links, man? Just want to know what kind of relays I need, etc.

I had my bumper fogs in the dual filament configuration and IMO it was OK. If you use the high filament as the constant and the low filament as the blinker than it looks kinda ghetto and faint at night. If you do it vice versa, then you can barely notice the signaling during the night and most especially during the day.

Also, when I did this, it would hyperblink. I wanna just use a single filament regular speed setup. Any help would be appreciated...thanks
link (http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3631) (--i think ur looking for this (my diy)

[93greenakkord]

i really want to do this. but i really dont get how. can some one post pics?? thanks

[accordztech]

its easy.

search.

basically run a line from the corner lite down to the bumper.

get some 1157 sockets if u want it low and high or use or stock 1156 and hook it up to the wire and your done.

mine is 1157 low and high.

[FDAccord]

Any suggestions on where to get this dual socket thing? Did you guys go to the dealership or what?

[AccordWarrior]

I just went to the junkyard and clipped on out...also if you can't find a Civic socket, you can use one from a 3rd gen Accord, just get the outer socket...the one the brake light actually, not the always on running light part.

[Melt]

Originally posted by AccordWarrior
I just went to the junkyard and clipped on out...also if you can't find a Civic socket, you can use one from a 3rd gen Accord, just get the outer socket...the one the brake light actually, not the always on running light part.

:werd:

junkyard get it out the brake socket of almost any honda.

The ones on the 91 accord in the pics came out of like an 84 crx or some shit that was junked near my old college.

[blamethepunx]

:D i put H1's in my bumperlights, havent melted yet either :D

[WiKKeDV16]

meh.. lol.. well.. w.e came with the shitty apc fogs that my sisters accord had before is whats in there now..

check out the fucking beamage from them alone

[WiKKeDV16]

heres a pic of them.. but meh.. i have them off. lol.. there getting a lil hot so.. i need to move them farther back..


P.S excuse the foot action:lol:

[Indecided]

um..yep, i've a 4th gen asian variant..SINGLE filament.. not JDM... and well I never saw how it could work.. but anyways i said, what's the harm.. So i tried.

blew two 20A fuses and after that, gave up and hardwired the bumper lenses to the parking lights.

Side effect? Hyperblinkers and now I won't know when a light blows (hyperblinkers..) but i have a hunch, by putting a resistance load accross the now-empty bumper light sockets (to emulate a load) might kill the hyperblinkers. anybody have any experience with this?

[Indecided]

okay..found the solution. while searching the net for hyperblinkers and information about it, i came across this site (http://www.andrews.edu/~johnsonm/howto/blinkermodrelay.html) by Cyrogen97 which utilizes a more linear and well, logical solution to keeping the bumper lights blinking for single fillament bulbs. very useful..now i've just got to rewire EVERYTHING again. sigh.

[Importkitz]

I used the harness from my old tail lights. I melted a small tab off to make it fit correctly.

1157 harness/socket has 3 wires:

ground, 6v, 12v

Wires to stock bumper lense:

ground, 12v

Wires to inner-corner lights (the one that does not blink):

ground, 6v

All I did was tap the inner-corner 6v line to the 1157 6v line. The stock line still gets 12v so it will not blink fast. I kept my amber bumper lense on and used an amber tinted bulb. I do not suggest this method for people who are going to use hyperwhite bulbs with clear bumper lenses. The 6v output is dim and you will not like the results.

[CB7Tuner915]

http://www.superhonda.com/photopost/data/2/65304May02044.JPG

Mine came out pretty nice :p

[valent|n0]

how about adding a pig tail bulb in the bumper light?
is it gonna melt the housing ?

check this out
http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6474

[trboaccord]

I Converted my bumper lights to come on with the corner lights, but they don't blink. I just used the stock harness and put single filament amber bulbs in. I think they are number 2057?. A ll i did was clip the original power wire to the harness, and ran a wire from my corner bulb that is always on, and attached that to the harness where the other wire was. I will post some pictures when i get home, hopefully tonight or tomorrow.
My "fogs" are quite bright for being just a single filament blinker bulb. I haven't run into any problem with melting the housing, mostly because these kind of bulbs dont get all that hot.

I did do a test with using headlight bulbs in the bumper housing, and i got them to work real nicely, but they Do melt the housing, so one solution i found that worked was to put metal on the top and bottom of the housing around the bulb. that way the heat is reflected off of ther metal and not the plastic.

[Importkitz]

Originally posted by valent|n0
how about adding a pig tail bulb in the bumper light?
is it gonna melt the housing ?

check this out
http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6474

did you read that post? someone already answered that question.

[blamethepunx]

i used an H1 bulb and drilled a hole in the back of the bumperlight housing, ran the H1's thru a switch in my interior to my battery. bright as hell, didnt melt anything, and i could turn them on and off at will. unfortunately i dont have any pics of them as i got a new bumper/bumperlights and i feel bad if i drill holes in my JDM bumperlights, but it worked very well

[CB7.v2]

** i know this is an old subject, but i was following a link from a current thread...**

go buy a 3wire-to-2wire universal trailer hitch module. no dual filament bulbs or sockets; use the stock stuff you already have! on one side of the module, it accepts the individual signals and parking lights coming from the car. on the other side, it has a single wire going to each of the bulbs. there might be a ground on one or both sides. basically all you do is cut one wire (probe with test light for positive wire; do not cut the negative wire) of the stock wire pairs and then wire in this module. however, the module is like $15.