View Full Version : EXT: Bumper Light conversion (always ON)
Accrdkid
02-13-2004, 02:37 AM
I got this email from a friend who owned a really nice 90 Accord Coupe...I emailed him recently about the bumper light conversion to fogs so he wrote back and this is what I got. :D
*I do not have a wire diagram of my bumper lights, but I can guild you
towards the right direction.
It's actually very simple.
All you need to do is buy a fog light kit from your local autostore.
They should sell them for about $12 to $20.
Inside the kit, you will receive all the wires, relay, and switch needed for
your bumper light conversion.
Follow the instructions with the fog light kit, but wires the black and wire
to your bumper lights instead of fog lights (which isn't included in the kit
anyways)*
Oh yeah I need to know where I can get an Accord leather interior if anyone can find a donor SE let me know
fliplyricist1
02-13-2004, 03:31 AM
Originally posted by Accrdkid
I got this email from a friend who owned a really nice 90 Accord Coupe...I emailed him recently about the bumper light conversion to fogs so he wrote back and this is what I got. :D
*I do not have a wire diagram of my bumper lights, but I can guild you
towards the right direction.
It's actually very simple.
All you need to do is buy a fog light kit from your local autostore.
They should sell them for about $12 to $20.
Inside the kit, you will receive all the wires, relay, and switch needed for
your bumper light conversion.
Follow the instructions with the fog light kit, but wires the black and wire
to your bumper lights instead of fog lights (which isn't included in the kit
anyways)*
Oh yeah I need to know where I can get an Accord leather interior if anyone can find a donor SE let me know
I don't think you retain the signal as well with this mod.
i tried "tapping" the wires going to the corner lenses and mating them to the bumper lights for that always on feel...but screwed up and now the turn signal doesn't work lol. I hate electrical components :p
arrozburner
02-13-2004, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by midnite racer x
i tried "tapping" the wires going to the corner lenses and mating them to the bumper lights for that always on feel...but screwed up and now the turn signal doesn't work lol. I hate electrical components :p
:lol: :lol: Thats what happened to me too:lol: :lol:
is there any way to fix this?
fliplyricist1
02-13-2004, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by arrozburner
:lol: :lol: Thats what happened to me too:lol: :lol:
is there any way to fix this?
lol happened to me as well
I actually didn't do anything...somehow, by the hand of a greater power...it just started working again like 5 minutes later.
But be sure to check the fuses under your dash, and...as a last last resort check the big main relay under the hood on the passenger side.
i wonder...did we all use that same diagram from that one accord site? I believe it was a white 5th gen that they did it on. I don't really car about it anymore its not effecting anything and my bumper lights still blink so its no biggie. I'll check the fuse tho
AccordExR
02-16-2004, 11:41 PM
i was looking into doing this to my car.....does anyone have an effective way that works to do this? DIY would be nice thanks
accordztech
02-22-2004, 02:36 AM
i do
haha but i never posted it here. basically i used relays. iono if u can understand my pics but here.
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simple view...cryogen's design...
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid101/p1d52274e15dbb6fc7e732acdf9c0732e/f9d712c3.jpg
same view, my design....same thing same thing!
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/p4eaff362b0e7afa31a4a39aa9fa7467b/f9cb8b3d.jpg
well i did the bumper light conversion with the help of crogen on SHO. he put the relay together in a diagram for me.
this is the relay method. there is another method but i like this one cause it doesnt draw too much power from the lighting system.
Things you will need:
relay x 2 ($10) <---5 prong automotive relay rated at 30 amps!
5 amp inline fuse x2 ($2 for 4)
inline fuse holder x2 ($2)
extra wire, bigger 16 guage or bigger. <---i used 14 guage cause i have hell of it
zip ties (optional)
electrical tape/solder/butt connectors/vynal glue (its electrical tape thats waterproff...)
1157 sockets. and bulbs
wire connectors like the ones on the relay
crimper (i have the one that strips the wire for u)
wire loom (optional)
+ i am not responsible for ur stupidity but if somehow u went wrong contact me on AIM "pino401" or PM me or EMAIL me peepoy@hotmail.com .+
disconnect battery at least when ur doing this, i didnt, cuas ei was carefull...but do it anyways...
-now the relay may be differnt but there is a diagram in the back when u buy it and u can match it to the realy on the picture-
ok i took out my bumper to make things easier for me. if u decide not to you will just be working in a small area and its a pain...with alot of cuts.
i took the corner lights and the bumper lights off. well i had the bumper off so i just took the corners off- i cut the bumper lights off (1156's)and installed the new bumper light, 1157, and tested them to see if they actually work first by connecting the ground and the green wire...it should turn bright with the signals...
then t-tapped the constant from the corner light (the one that stays on, not the one that blinks) and ran a line down to the relay. put a little connector to the number 86 on the relay. (blue color on diag). if u dont know which wire is which use a voltage tester and turn on the parking lights...there is a ground there too so DO NOT tap that
on the new bumper light there are 3 wires; red, black, and green. now you can play here, one of the red is the constant low and green is the one that turns the bulb on high
here is something funnie, when u look at the wires for the stock bulbs, they are 1156. one side of mine had 2 wires and the other side had 3. you will see a green wire, and a black wire. sometimes 2 green wires. *just remember green go to green, black to black.* jus tput them all together
always hook the green wires up then get the wire from 87 from the relay together (red on diag)
then the black wire, tap the ground for the realy. the ground on the relay is 85.
now run a line from the relay (#30) all the way to the battery terminal in the fuse box. make sure u put a inline fuse on the line just to be safe. i put a 5a fuse.
tada u got one side done. if your hyper blinking then u hooked up something wrong, either the corner light or u forgot one of the green wires =). or you got the bumper light wiring wrong.
id test it at the moment before u finalize the wiring and make it nice and neat. turn on ur parking lights, the bottom light should turn on. and then turn on ur hazard and then it should go low then high.
the hard part is tapping the line from the corner light cause its a very small spot. there are t-taps avalible but i just cut and solderd it.
now repeat this procedure to the other side.
*i taped the relay all the way and mounted it behind some metal away from waters path....then zip tied it to the frame. (this is why i took my bumper off)
*i solderd all my lines and then put some vynal glue on it (its just like tape but its waterproof..) but u dont have to. u can just tape it up alot or put shrink wrap and tape it. i just didnt want water going in it.
all in all, this took me 4 hours, cause i took a break like every 10 minutes hahaha and it was cold as fuk.
if u want a switch just split the line from #87 that goes from the relay to the bumper lights and put a switch inside the car or something.
sorrie for the sloppy writeup and picture....it seems complicated but its really easy...
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accordztech
02-22-2004, 02:40 AM
if u want something easier do this.
tap the corner light constant. then bring it down to the bulbs wire. then inbetween that put a line to the dash and put a switch and put a wire back out to the bulb.
there you go. you have a switch to the bumper lights and still retain the signal light.
remember its an 1157 bulb (low and high)you use for dual filament. if you were using the stock 1156 single filament bulbs (high only) you would just attach the wire from the switch to the green wire on the bulb.
use 16 guage or beter wiring. and black tape.
gloryaccordy
10-25-2004, 11:53 AM
Can you wire the bumper lights to the corners, and the fog relay to the bumper?
accordztech
10-25-2004, 12:05 PM
i got tired of replacing my relays on my system. now i just ran a line from the corner constant.
why would you wire a fog relay to the bumpers? its completley legal IMO....
Maple50175
10-25-2004, 04:28 PM
lol wow you guys did it the hard way.
all i did was send the Power wire to both lights then to the cockpit of the car to a 12v power source like the headlights. then kept the ground it already has and tada!
we got the bumper light conversion always on when u turn on your parking lights ;)
ChIoVnIdCa
10-25-2004, 06:22 PM
I have a conversion diy somewhere that keeps them on all the time and they still blink.
ChIoVnIdCa
10-25-2004, 06:26 PM
http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3631&highlight=bumper
AccordWarrior
10-27-2004, 07:18 PM
I really don't why you guys are doing the relay way. The Civic socket way is sooo much easier. Sure the light output is kinda dim on the low filament but all you guys seem to be running amber anyways, so it doesn't really matter because they don't aid in anthing but appearence, but once again I'll explain since this got bumped.
What's needed:
2 Civic Corner sockets or 86-89 Accord 1157 Brake sockets.
Some Wire
So on the stock socket, there are 2 wires, green and black. Black is negative, green is signal (+12v)
On the Civic/other Accord socket...there are 3 wires, green, red and black. Black is negative, green is signal (+12v) and red is positive.
Okay, here's how to do it. Black goes to black, green to green. You run the red wire up to the always on wire of your corner light (i forget which is which, but somethign is saying red) and that powers your low beam filament.
Tada, you're done, really easy, I've had mine done for 2 years, no melting of bumper light or anything. Looks good too now that I have a nice hyperwhite in there.
accordztech
10-27-2004, 11:33 PM
i did the relay so it wouldnt stress my system and so it can be brighter.
but since i blew em out i just taped the corner light
and any car almost any car either uses 1157 or some other light for the brake light..
i just grabbed anything off of any type of honda...
dwf137
11-12-2004, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by AccordWarrior
I really don't why you guys are doing the relay way. The Civic socket way is sooo much easier. Sure the light output is kinda dim on the low filament but all you guys seem to be running amber anyways, so it doesn't really matter because they don't aid in anthing but appearence, but once again I'll explain since this got bumped.
What's needed:
2 Civic Corner sockets or 86-89 Accord 1157 Brake sockets.
Some Wire
So on the stock socket, there are 2 wires, green and black. Black is negative, green is signal (+12v)
On the Civic/other Accord socket...there are 3 wires, green, red and black. Black is negative, green is signal (+12v) and red is positive.
Okay, here's how to do it. Black goes to black, green to green. You run the red wire up to the always on wire of your corner light (i forget which is which, but somethign is saying red) and that powers your low beam filament.
Tada, you're done, really easy, I've had mine done for 2 years, no melting of bumper light or anything. Looks good too now that I have a nice hyperwhite in there.
alright, the electrical stuff is not really my thing, but I want to do this so i just want to clarify some thigns. I have a day set aside coming up to do a few things, just for looks on the front end of my car. i'm going to install all amber corners, blackhouse my headlights, do the 9005 conversion, get yellow 9005 bulbs for my high beams, and do this, since it looks hot at night.
Now you said that you need to get ahold of the 1157 Brake sockets. I can just go to the junk yard and cut off the wiring harness from another cb7 for the breaks? I'm imagining that you need to cut off the factory socket, and just hook up the corosponding wires, like you said black to black, green to green, and then i'd need to extend the red all the way up to the red wire coming out of the corners, right? i'm assuming that the 1157 Brake sockets hook up without modification to the factory bumper light housings. and then you just need to turn it on and it'll work fine.. when you've got your parking lights or the headlights on, the corners will light, along with the bumper lights, and then the bumper lights get bighter when you put on the turnsignals. Just want to make sure i'm thinking right...
oh and also, i want to get all amber bumber lights for my 90.. anyone know where i can get ahold of them? or should i just get some sorty of amber spray paint and spray the lenses of the factory bumpers lights..?
thanks for the help.
93accordexcoupe
12-14-2004, 08:25 PM
hey ive got fog lights on my car already and i was just wondering if there is a way i can just tap into the fog light wires to run my bumper lights?
AccordWarrior
12-14-2004, 08:35 PM
You can, as far as getting that third power wire, if you do it with sockets, but it just is a whole lot easier cleaner if you go through the corners IMO.
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