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H311RA151N 09-22-2014 03:22 PM

H311RA151N : 1986 Ford F-250 XL
 
Wanted another 4x4 on the hunch that this winter is going to be rough. Found this beast for the right price so I bought it.

:driving: 460 Big Block Making 235hp & 380ftlb :driving:

-Ford 460 D9TE-AB Engine 235hp/380ftlbs.
-Carter 9755S 750cfm Carburetor. -So long POS!
-Borg Warner T19 4 Speed Manual Transmission.
-Borg Warner 13-45 Transfer Case.
-Dana 44 IRS Front Axle 3:54.
-Sterling 10.25 Rear End 3:55.


http://i.imgur.com/9TaXgHEh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bZhUDQVh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/iNoVNPIh.jpg?1






ENGINE:

Edelbrock 1407 750cfm 4 Barrel Manual Choke
Edelbrock 10" Black Air Cleaner
Comp Cams Magnum Double Roller Timing Set
Ignition Timing 8* Advanced
EGR System Deleted
Rotella T6 5w40 Motor Oil
Autolite Platinum AP25 Spark Plugs
Fel Pro Rubber Style Valve Cover Gaskets




TRANSMISSION:

Valvoline 80W90 Durablend Gear Oil



INTERIOR:

Trailer Brake Package
Autometer 5" Monster Tach With External Shift Light




EXTERIOR:

Gooseneck Hitch



--FUTURE PLANS--



ENGINE:

Ford 460 Cubic Inch D9TE-AB

Edelbrock 1407 750cfm Manual Choke Carburetor -Done
Edelbrock 10" Air Cleaner -Done
Fel Pro Rubber Valve Cover Gaskets -Done
Gates Water Pump -Not Yet Installed
Fel Pro Water Pump Gasket -Not Yet Installed
SKF Front Crank Seal
Spectra Heater Core
Standard Water Temp Sender



TRANSMISSION:

Borg Warner T19 Four Speed Manual Granny Low

Novak Adapt T19 Rebuild Kit
Valvoline/High Performance Gear Oil SAE 80W-90 (4 Quarts) -Done
LUK 12" Upgrade Clutch Kit
Sachs 12" Upgrade Flywheel




TRANSFER CASE:

Borg Warner 13-45

Transparts Warehouse BW1345 Rebuild Kit
Castrol Type F ATF (4 Quarts)




FRONT AXLE:

Dana 44 IRS 3:54 Gears

Valvoline Gear Oil 80w-90 (2 Quarts) -Done



REAR AXLE:

Sterling 10.25 3:55 Gears

Fel Pro Rear Diff Gasket -Done
Permatex Ultra Black RTV -Done
Valvoline Full Synthetic Gear Oil SAE 75W-140 (4 Quarts) -Done

XCRN 09-22-2014 08:08 PM

I am sure that will be a great investment in the coming months. I would love to have a 4x4 but I got access to a FWD Corolla for a winter car (and daily at the moment). Is it running relatively issue free now or is there some stuff you have to do before winter?

H311RA151N 09-22-2014 09:56 PM

I live in the Ozark hills. Basically all the roads are narrow, winding and either up hill or down hill. Last year we received 10"-13" of snow in 3 days. My CB at stock height with studded snow tires was useless. I wasn't going to do that again this year. Up until last year my CB has been really good in the snow. Just after about 8" it gets tough.

It doesn't need much. But what "has" to be done before winter is the entire future plans list... :banghead: It's leaking out of everything it has, both differentials, oil pan valve covers, crank seals, transfer case, transmission, power steering pump. They are not "leaking" just seeping and wet. But still. I cannot have that. I'm OCD about some shit.

I hope to have it done in the next 6 weeks. Also not listed is the brake work I have to do on it as well. Cost is just under $1900 for the entire future plans with the brakes included. :thumbsdwn:thumbsdwn



Next year all that will be left is the suspension and I will rebuild the engine. Same heads just ported which can add 30-50hp to the D3VE heads it has. I will go all out when I rebuild it. Better rods, forged pistons, good rv cam and so on.

I want 300hp and 500ftlb out of it and I will be content. Which isn't hard at all to get.

I put the truck on the scales today and it weighed in at 6100lbs.


http://bulk-share.slickpic.com/album...ps96808146.jpg


http://bulk-share.slickpic.com/album...ps6bdd6d13.jpg


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http://bulk-share.slickpic.com/album...ps4fca94b2.jpg

spiderpig 09-23-2014 01:10 AM

I put the truck on the scales today and it weighed in at 6100lbs. WOW :shocked:

H311RA151N 09-23-2014 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderpig (Post 3212137)
I put the truck on the scales today and it weighed in at 6100lbs. WOW :shocked:

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's close with the both tanks full and the gooseneck hitch. I was surprised as well.

Thing will get up and move too for weighing over 6000lbs. In 4th gear, which is the highest gear you got, you can lay on it at 45mph and before you know it your running 75mph.

H311RA151N 09-23-2014 04:16 AM

First thing you have to do when you buy an older truck is find out what you are working with.

Rear Axle. This tag means it's a Sterling 10.25 with 3.55s and has a non-locking differential.


http://bulk-share.slickpic.com/album...psadf64b59.jpg


Rear axle again. See the seepage.

http://bulk-share.slickpic.com/album...ps1a2637db.jpg


The Transfer Case. Borg Warner then 13-45 and some other numbers. 13-45 is the type. It's chain drive.

http://bulk-share.slickpic.com/album...ps111746d4.jpg


Once again, see the seepage.

http://bulk-share.slickpic.com/album...ps40849350.jpg


Transmission. It has a tag but I didn't need it. I know this is a Borg Warner T19. You can see it's leaking a bit. Way to much for my liking.

http://bulk-share.slickpic.com/album...psda710ca9.jpg


Front differential. Had to pull the tag off and clean it to be sure. It's a Dana 44 IRS with 3.54s. A tad bit lower so the front pulls just a bit faster than the rear. I guess it keeps the truck going straighter when in 4x4.

http://bulk-share.slickpic.com/album...ps193c17e7.jpg

http://bulk-share.slickpic.com/album...ps1b30ae19.jpg

http://bulk-share.slickpic.com/album...psb053321e.jpg

Engine block code. Leaking way to much oil. Passenger side valve cover gasket is gone.

http://bulk-share.slickpic.com/album...psf89d1871.jpg

H311RA151N 09-23-2014 05:58 AM

I have found out that my block (D9TE-AB) has lengthened cylinder walls. The cylinders were lengthened in the D9TE block because this block was revised to double as a big equipment truck block, and the dump truck rotating assemblies consisted of a very deep skirt piston that benefited from the extended cylinder walls for support.


I know the D9TE has a different rotating assembly than C8VE-A, C9VE-A, D0VE-A, D1VE engine and is externally balanced. I'm currently looking to what is the same. As I search on Summit not many parts come up for the 460 once I add that it's an '86 from an F-250...

wildBill83 09-23-2014 06:32 AM

Is that all original equipment? Isn't the 460 from the F350? Also the carb kits for those can be a pain. Good 4x4 Ozark rig though.

You should get the crank and rotating assembly from a dump truck and stroke her. :-)

H311RA151N 09-23-2014 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildBill83 (Post 3212156)
Is that all original equipment? Isn't the 460 from the F350? Also the carb kits for those can be a pain. Good 4x4 Ozark rig though.

You should get the crank and rotating assembly from a dump truck and stroke her. :-)

You are partly correct. The 460 only came out in the F350 and the F250HD. :tu:

It's all O.E! :D It has the all the best things they used in the 7th generation F series. All except for the front axle. If I were going to do more with the truck I would get a Dana 60 solid front axle from an 85+ F350.

Needless to say when I register it I will register it for 18,000lbs or 24,000lbs with beyond local tags. That way I don't have to have a rear tag and I can go where ever I want. Plus you don't have to wear seatbelts for 18,000lbs+.

Legally I have to as I know I will be pulling a trailer at least twice a year in excess of 11,000lbs by it's self.


Luckily my father is the mad scientist of carburetors. And the kit I'm going to use is supposed to be the best one out there. I will pull the carb off, take it to him and hopefully it pans out well. If not I will have to buy a new carb. But I'm pretty sure it will work out great.

I'm having a hard time finding information on the specifics of the D9TE block right now. I'm thinking about doing just what you said and running the rotating assembly from a dump truck. Hell, might as well since it's possible. Not that it's necessary but there isn't a such thing as to tough of an engine.

spiderpig 09-23-2014 10:09 AM

but there isn't a such thing as to tough of an engine. preach lol, nice truck I'm digging this mrt

H311RA151N 09-23-2014 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderpig (Post 3212180)
but there isn't a such thing as to tough of an engine. preach lol, nice truck I'm digging this mrt

:lol: Thank you! There will be more progress in this MRT than my CB7 MRT, sadly. I just need this thing running tip top before winter.

H311RA151N 09-23-2014 07:10 PM

I want this... $1200 is super cheap. That's about the cost of a full rebuild. Not bad for a stroker kit. 545 cubic inches? :evil: That could be fun.

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/429-46...-Kit,5530.html

spiderpig 09-23-2014 07:16 PM

yeah speedway has great prices, our last winter here was horrible but I will have to make due with my CD5 and all season tires ......gulp

H311RA151N 09-23-2014 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderpig (Post 3212235)
yeah speedway has great prices, our last winter here was horrible but I will have to make due with my CD5 and all season tires ......gulp

I have family near Wind Ridge PA. Their property almost extends into West Virginia. So I get the kinda winters you guys get there in PA. I wouldn't care for it too much honestly. But I love PA. And I love the Steelers. :lol: #99

spiderpig 09-23-2014 07:45 PM

I am also a Steelers fan, been since 1995, I live in warmer area of PA I live like 15 miles from Baltimore County Maryland , it is very hilly here and most non highway roads are twisty :p

wildBill83 09-23-2014 07:48 PM

I'll trade either of you winters!:D

H311RA151N 09-23-2014 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderpig (Post 3212244)
I am also a Steelers fan, been since 1995, I live in warmer area of PA I live like 15 miles from Baltimore County Maryland , it is very hilly here and most non highway roads are twisty :p

:tu: Hell yeah man! I have been since 2010. So not all that long.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildBill83 (Post 3212246)
I'll trade either of you winters!:D

:lol: I bet you would! I'll trade you roads though. :D

wildBill83 09-23-2014 08:21 PM

No thanks, I'll take the gravel roads around my house over any MO highway anyday. Do the potholes in your state have individual area codes or what!

H311RA151N 09-23-2014 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildBill83 (Post 3212258)
No thanks, I'll take the gravel roads around my house over any MO highway anyday. Do the potholes in your state have individual area codes or what!

:lol: Finally someone who understands! The roads are just horrible here... there really isn't a way to describe it. You have seen it so you know.

H311RA151N 09-24-2014 07:40 PM

Just bought the first parts for this thing.

-FRONT AXLE-

Fel Pro Front Diff Gasket
Valvoline Gear Oil 80w-90 (2 Quarts)
Spicer 40710 Drivers Side Inner Axle Seal
Spicer 40773 Passenger Side Inner Axle Seal
Spicer 5-760X Front Axle U Joints (2)



-REAR AXLE-

Fel Pro Rear Diff Gasket
Permatex Ultra Black RTV
Valvoline Full Synthetic Gear Oil SAE 75W-140 (4 Quarts)



Cost me just under $300. The universal joints for the front shafts are direct from the manufacturer along with the seals. :tu: Do it once, do it right.

Next the engine will be getting some attention.


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