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Raf99 06-30-2017 04:26 AM

FU Photobucket!
 
Did they seriously just remove the option for <img> tags on free accounts?

"Photobucket defines 3rd party hosting as the action of embedding an image or photo onto another website. For example, using the <img> tag to embed or display a JPEG image from your Photobucket account on another website such as a forum, Etsy, eBay auction listings, a blog, etc. is definitively 3rd party hosting."

Seriously, what else am I going to use photobucket for? Showing people in person my photos on their website? Not like they weren't bad enough for their ads and popups, asking you to disable ad blockers, now this shit. This totally fubar'd my whole MRT.

I may as well host these on my own server but the mess I need to now fix is almost impossible. Any other recommendations for a free site?

deevergote 06-30-2017 06:10 AM

Crap. This is going to take a LOT of our DIY and MR pictures down :(

Rilas 06-30-2017 07:17 AM

Glad I got moved off because they ate half of my photos I had uploaded.

Flickr.com is an option, beyond that I don't think there are many photo hosting sites left.

Accrdwgnguy 06-30-2017 07:27 AM

yea they just did that. Last I checked mine are all still up but it won't be long. This is going to break alot of threads across the web...really bad biz move on their part, but they definitely played the long con on everyone.

sonikaccord 06-30-2017 08:28 AM

I've never liked photo bucket...the site is slow, unresponsive, just overall a really 56k experience. Now this? I'm taking all of my photos off when I get home. Damn...that really is going break a lot of build threads.

CyborgGT 06-30-2017 08:55 AM

I was wondering what's up. Dead photos here and on the RSX forum :(

I switched from Photobucket to Flickr years ago and immediately liked Flickr's setup more.

Accrdwgnguy 06-30-2017 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonikaccord (Post 3272428)
I've never liked photo bucket...the site is slow, unresponsive, just overall a really 56k experience. Now this? I'm taking all of my photos off when I get home. Damn...that really is going break a lot of build threads.

It used to be good....like 10 years ago. Then they just started piling on ads, making the UI slow and shitty...guess that was just a buildup to this latest BS.

Raf99 06-30-2017 10:08 AM

Yep. I'm removing my photos and deleting my account. I'll have to re-do my whole MRT and possibly start over. But you guys are right, they just kept pushing and pushing with different things to piss you off. This is the last straw for me.

Trying to think of a way to make my MRT look half presentable again..... :(

Accrdwgnguy 06-30-2017 01:25 PM

So I actually pulled up their terms of service. Never mind I got like 10 ads pop up and cover the browser window WHEN LOOKING AT THEIR TOS, not even content, but look at this crap. These people are nuts if they think all the regular joes are going to give them $400 a year just to link their images to other sites. I'll likely leave my content on there and not be petty by removing my content. I've got my fair share of free use out of them for years, and also clinging to the hope that they'll release their bad decision and roll back the change.

Quote:

Types of Accounts, Pricing and Limits

Visiting : There is no cost to visit the Site or to register as a Member.
Free account : Each individual Member gets one free account that provides 2 GB of free storage or space available for your original photo files, or videos under 10min. The free account does not allow any image linking or 3rd party image hosting. If a free account Member exceeds their Content Limit, their account will be immediately suspended and they will need to become a “Paying Member” (defined below) in order to continue accessing their account. You can upgrade to a Plus account at any time.
Ad-free Account : The Ad-free Account offers Members the ability to use the Site without seeing any third party banner advertisements when logged into your Ad-free Account (note, viewers of your images within Photobucket will see ads unless they, too, have Plus accounts and you will continue to see Photobucket offers and announcements). This account level is available for $2.49 / month, payable by the Member on a monthly recurring basis.
Plus Account : The Plus Account offers several paid options that may give the Paying Member more storage, bandwidth, 3rd party image hosting, image linking and/or other services as outlined below. Once and during such period of time in which you subscribe to and pay for a Plus Account, we will consider you a "Paying Member." Please note that all Plus Account subscriptions are billed annually at the commencement of the service. Photobucket may also offer a monthly billing option for its Plus Accounts (see terms and restrictions, below).

Available Plus Account Plans : Photobucket offers the following Plus Account Plans:

o Plus 50 Plan: 52 GB of Storage for $59.99 / Year. The Plus 50 Plan does not allow any image linking or 3rd party image hosting.

o Plus 100 Plan: 102 GB of Storage for $99.99 / Year. The Plus 100 Plan allows for unlimited image linking but does not allow 3rd party image hosting.

o Plus 500 Plan: 500 GB of Storage and unlimited bandwidth for $399.99 / Year. The Plus 500 Plan allows for unlimited image linking and unlimited 3rd party image hosting.

Read more: http://photobucket.com/terms#ixzz4lVi44TTH

CyborgGT 06-30-2017 02:28 PM

Yeah, Flickr gives you a full TB free. I hope this isn't a sign of things to come for them as well.

But the silver lining to all this is that the main page finally has to be updated (it figures Raf would be the one to make a complaint thread :p).

deevergote 06-30-2017 03:14 PM

The good thing is that you can view the source of an image and still follow the path to it in your browser. Not ideal, but the images aren't necessarily gone. Inactive members that have Photobucket-hosted images won't need to come back for us to rescue important threads.

I might need to seriously start to organize an effort to consolidate images so we have proper control of them on the forum. Our bandwidth can't handle hosting them on our server, but perhaps it's time we devised a way to collect images and re-host them on a single hosting account.
It'll likely take months of hard work to relocate images and redirect image tags, and we'd need a system to keep things organized (especially if we ever need to move the image cache!) I have some ideas, but I'll need a few people that are willing to lend a hand.
Some research is necessary first, just to be sure we go in the best possible direction.

fleetw00d 06-30-2017 03:56 PM

I'm hoping they rescind this as well (or at least bring the price down to where it is reasonable), but in the mean time is Flickr the best place to go?

deevergote 06-30-2017 04:03 PM

Flickr seems to be the next big one. Unfortunately, they could also be the next to do something like this, too.

I'm sure the image hosting sites are hurting thanks to things like Facebook and Instagram. They're likely getting to be used for little more than hotlinked image hosting. Someone there just had the great idea to monetize that usage, seeing as it seems to be all people want from them! Linking to Facebook or Instagram photos only works for a short time, then the links break (I've posted many a Facebook picture here, only to have it disappear...)

AccordWarrior 06-30-2017 05:54 PM

IMGUR seems to be the big thing on Reddit. I don't know if they allow hot-linking.

Raf99 07-01-2017 11:21 AM

Download your pics while you can!

deevergote 07-01-2017 03:06 PM

I just had a member ask me how to view the decals (apparently all the images I used were Photobucket images as well!) He was under the impression that the restriction was something imposed by this site. If people start thinking that, I'm going to be getting a lot of PMs about that!

Once we develop a proper image hosting solution, I think I might seek the aid of a handful of people that would be willing to download and re-upload images, as well as edit threads to direct to the correct image addresses. It will be a HUGE undertaking, but I feel the damage done by this is going to be massive otherwise. Since Photobucket is the image host that we've always recommended, many people have likely chosen to have their stuff hosted there.

Raf99 07-01-2017 03:35 PM

I'm pretty sure there is a mass delete/download of photos from photobucket today, the site seems a bit slow and unresponsive at times :bouncy:

CyborgGT 07-01-2017 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Accrdwgnguy (Post 3272436)
I'll likely leave my content on there and not be petty by removing my content. I've got my fair share of free use out of them for years, and also clinging to the hope that they'll release their bad decision and roll back the change.

I like this idea.

deevergote 07-01-2017 03:49 PM

I see no point in deleting anything, but downloading photos in the event that Photobucket decides to pull an ImageStation and just nuke everything with a short recovery window wouldn't be a bad idea!

Also, Photobucket images can still be viewed if you copy the URL of the image and paste it into your browser. Not the easiest way of doing things, but the images aren't totally inaccessible for the time being.

GhostAccord 07-01-2017 06:47 PM

I sure hope the added bandwidth of everyone downloading their images from the sinking ship doesn't benefit Photobucket.

I have all of my images saved on a HD at my home. So I will probably opt to delete all of my images from their site or just leave them there and break any relevant links. Hope that just leaving them there will take up space on their server and make them clean up the mess on their end.

GhostAccord 07-01-2017 07:01 PM

Just logged in and noticed that I have 1,545 images linked to PB.....that's a lot of broken links now.

Looks like I'll be relying on FB and Youtube from now on. Sucks for anyone looking at my past DIY threads on this and other forums. I'm not fixing 1,545 links and I'm not paying them $400/year. If these images made me money then I could see spending money to make money.

deevergote 07-01-2017 07:17 PM

FB image links are temporary. The links break after a few weeks (if you look through my "what's your most recent purchase" posts, you'll see a bunch of them, since most are from Facebook.)

I'm weighing some options open to me, including one fairly ambitious (but seemingly solid) way of doing things on the advice of another CB7tuner member. Regardless, we're going to have to do some pretty major work over the coming weeks to get things even close to being back to normal. I'll likely be looking for volunteers at that point.

Jon 07-01-2017 07:25 PM

If it wasn't for the fact that I am paying PB to host my sh*t for ebay, I would have dumped them years ago.

postimage.io works well. Really haven't had any issues with them at all actually. You can have your image expire (or not), resized (or not). Create an account (or not).

Just read over their TOS to make sure you're okay with them.

Raf99 07-02-2017 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostAccord (Post 3272484)
Just logged in and noticed that I have 1,545 images linked to PB.....that's a lot of broken links now.

Looks like I'll be relying on FB and Youtube from now on. Sucks for anyone looking at my past DIY threads on this and other forums. I'm not fixing 1,545 links and I'm not paying them $400/year. If these images made me money then I could see spending money to make money.

Were you using albums for these photos or just dumped into one folder on PB?

bassrock234 07-02-2017 01:32 PM

I have around 3k+ photos in my photobucket. I've been using it for a long long time now. Those of you who also have been using it a while should check out your account storage. I'm pretty sure I got a free upgrade a while ago. Their free account is 2gig storage I believe and that's the one that doesn't allow hosting. My account is 10gigs and I don't pay anything for it. All the photos I've posted from PB are also still visible as far as I'm aware.

GhostAccord 07-02-2017 08:53 PM

Yeah well there is no 10Gb plan listed now. And I am only using 7% of 2Gb... I have absolutely no need of a 500Gb plan and pay $39.99/month just for 3rd party links. I'm out, it's been a pain in the ass to load and navigate for the past 5 years anyway. Good riddance to old rubbish! Feel sorry for anyone paying for the 50 and 100 plans thinking that they are safe. They don't allow 3rd party links ether. it's only a matter of time before they block you as well.

GTRON 07-02-2017 10:53 PM

I'm just mad that this is wreaking havoc on car forums everywhere. Bye bye tutorial pictures. :idiots:

cp[mike] 07-03-2017 10:45 AM

I'm trying to put together a program that scans the cb7tuner database for photobucket links, then goes out and downloads any images referenced, so that we can collect them all into one spot. With how quiet cb7tuner is at this point we should look into providing our own private image hosting so that it stays tied with the forum...

GhostAccord 07-03-2017 01:15 PM

The Ridgeline owners club forum has a couple different memberships that allows for files to be uploaded. I like the idea, I only had to pay $40 for lifetime membership with 500 images. That is more than enough for one forum. Heck I only had 1545 images on PB that have been shared over the last 12 years on 10 different forums. I'd say more than 2/3 of those broken link images will go unnoticed. 4 of the forums are no longer active.

Mike1357 07-03-2017 01:53 PM

Flickr has 1tb for free. I've been using them ever since imageshack did the same thing photobucket is doing now. It does suck that now all these forums will have broken links. I still have to go back through and re-host most of the pictures from my mrt.

CyborgGT 07-03-2017 04:35 PM

Wow, I forgot about ImageShack. I used to use them before PhotoBucket, too. But like a few of us are worried about, that puts Flickr (and any free image hosting site) at future risk as well. I'll be double-checking that all of my Flickr images are backed up on a HDD soon, for sure.

I'm looking around for reasoning behind the PB change, and someone commented on an article, saying

Quote:

They did send an email on the same day but it went to junk. "You account has been restricted for excessive usage and 3rd(sic) party hosting."

Well, I can tell you for sure I am not an excessive user.
I can't find anything about third party hosting at Flickr so far, but I'm looking (with them being tied to Yahoo, I'm having trouble finding TOS specifically for the part of Flickr revolving around the free hosting). These image hosting sites can't be cheap to run, so it is understandable that they have to make money somehow. I'm not a techy person, but I would think people using these hosting sites to post millions of photos on other websites can only be doing damage to their bandwidth.

From Imgur's TOS:

http://imgur.com/tos

Quote:

Also, don't use Imgur to host image libraries you link to from elsewhere, content for your website, advertising, avatars, or anything else that turns us into your content delivery network. If you do – and we will be the judge – or if you do anything illegal, in addition to any other legal rights we may have, we will ban you along with the site you're hotlinking from, delete all your images, report you to the authorities if necessary, and prevent you from viewing any images hosted on Imgur.com. We mean it.
That's the best way to phrase things. What dicks!

Putting something together specifically for this forum is the only way to future-proof this issue.

deevergote 07-03-2017 04:51 PM

We may have a solution in the works. There's some genius a-brewin'. With luck, it'll all work out.

CyborgGT 07-03-2017 04:54 PM

Yes, [cp]mike's last post sounded very interesting!

deevergote 07-03-2017 04:57 PM

Yup. that would be said genius at work :D I forgot he posted about it on here!

GhostAccord 07-03-2017 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raf99 (Post 3272511)
Were you using albums for these photos or just dumped into one folder on PB?

I had individual albums.

GhostAccord 07-03-2017 05:32 PM

I have just switched everything over to Flickr. They allow 3rd party image links as long as you add their tag content to your images, liking people back to the Flickr website. I'm OK with that.

Now starts the process of changing any relevant links. Took me all of 5 minutes to find and upload 500 of my most current images to Flickr. I will update older threads if people message me looking for images. I have all of my web images stored on my own HD. I have never trusted any of these sites to save them for me.

cb7 calling 07-03-2017 07:41 PM

So I have about 5-10 images on pb. They have not messed my "system" up yet. Should I go delete my images before the sue me for hot linking? Or am I sooooo far down the list they haven't gotten to me yet?

GhostAccord 07-03-2017 07:46 PM

lol 5-10 images.... I think you'll be ok. They aren't suing anyone anyway.

cb7 calling 07-03-2017 09:02 PM

I know right. I opened it to post a few photos here and that's it. I just read the article ther sites fine print a few post ago and was like daaaaaang.

cp[mike] 07-05-2017 10:56 AM

obligatory XKCD:

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/instagram.png


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