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zedjr10 01-14-2020 12:01 PM

drivers door lock lever doesn't work when cold
 
My auto locks works good on passengers door but on drivers door it works not as well the colder it is. If it is 80 degrees outside the door lock lever works fine on drivers door when using power locks but if it is 20 degrees it takes a few times or flat out doesn't lock or unlock. I am assuming it is the contact points need cleaning in the box(i forget what it is called) behind the door panel right in front and below the lock itself. Just need some confirmation i guess. Anyone?

Ghostwhite 01-14-2020 01:53 PM

It may also help to lube the rod and lock mechanism. The actuator may be gunked up and dirty enough to cause a problem in the cold. Time to take the door apart and have a look at everything.

zedjr10 01-15-2020 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostwhite (Post 3294335)
It may also help to lube the rod and lock mechanism. The actuator may be gunked up and dirty enough to cause a problem in the cold. Time to take the door apart and have a look at everything.

I have already had it apart when i put a new lock lever in it. I have just been monitoring it for last few months. It has nothing to do with the rods. They slide fine. I thought it could be the locking mechanism or the relay box behind door panel. Am leaning towards relay box and dirty contacts as i have read others have had this same issue with very similar conditions. Anyone with same issue?

Ghostwhite 01-15-2020 06:22 PM

Have you tried bypassing the relay and supplying 12V directly to the lock motor? That would be a good step if you think the relay is bad.

https://i.imgur.com/uPejLDZh.png


Do you have access to a service manual?

zedjr10 01-16-2020 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostwhite (Post 3294343)
Have you tried bypassing the relay and supplying 12V directly to the lock motor? That would be a good step if you think the relay is bad.

Do you have access to a service manual?

i have a honda service manual. I did test the actuator itself months ago after i replaced broke lever. Led me to believe nothing was wrong with the actuator itself. I then decided to just watch it for a while. I did read some people had similar problem and they just had to resolder connections inside of relay. Am wondering if it is that. I could probably get this easily from junkyard but resoldering would probably be easier. I thought for a bit it was bad ground possibly or weak voltage from battery as that how it acts. Works fine when it is relatively warm inside of car. I will clean and check solder contacts and see what happens. Not that hard to do i guess. Just nice to be confident in doing something for a reason.

btw, i am not sure if i did try that or not a few months ago. Good thing to try when i have it door panel off. Thanks.

Ghostwhite 01-16-2020 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by zedjr10 (Post 3294344)
i have a honda service manual. I did test the actuator itself months ago after i replaced broke lever. Led me to believe nothing was wrong with the actuator itself. I then decided to just watch it for a while. I did read some people had similar problem and they just had to resolder connections inside of relay. Am wondering if it is that. I could probably get this easily from junkyard but resoldering would probably be easier. I thought for a bit it was bad ground possibly or weak voltage from battery as that how it acts. Works fine when it is relatively warm inside of car. I will clean and check solder contacts and see what happens. Not that hard to do i guess. Just nice to be confident in doing something for a reason.

btw, i am not sure if i did try that or not a few months ago. Good thing to try when i have it door panel off. Thanks.

Ah, I see now. All these steps were covered the first time you made this exact thread.

I don't want to dissuade you from posting or asking questions but it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to continue commenting/updating the first thread so that everyone can see what steps have already been offered.

Drivers door lever acts wierd with ignition off

zedjr10 01-17-2020 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostwhite (Post 3294345)
Ah, I see now. All these steps were covered the first time you made this exact thread.

I don't want to dissuade you from posting or asking questions but it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to continue commenting/updating the first thread so that everyone can see what steps have already been offered.

Drivers door lever acts wierd with ignition off

Well sort of. Except that below 40 degrees it acts up and above 60 degrees it acts perfect. I took out the relay box today and insides look fine so am going back to it being the actuator. I had sort of forgotten i had another post on issue. Now things are coming back to me. haha.

Ghostwhite 01-17-2020 07:05 PM

Retest it in the cold, if the actuator is filled with grease like most are it may act differently in the cold than in the heat. Chances are the grease is full of wear particles and is mostly sludge from age.

zedjr10 01-21-2020 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostwhite (Post 3294356)
Retest it in the cold, if the actuator is filled with grease like most are it may act differently in the cold than in the heat. Chances are the grease is full of wear particles and is mostly sludge from age.

The actuator i remember is not a part i can rebuild easily is it?

fleetw00d 01-22-2020 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by zedjr10 (Post 3294408)
The actuator i remember is not a part i can rebuild easily is it?

That's something I've never attempted. I your situation, I'd get one from a salvage yard (working or not). If it works, great, install it. If not, tear it apart to figure out how it works and what can go wrong with it, then you can attempt to fix the one in the car. If you install a good one, tear the old apart to diagnose and/or fix it for when the installed one goes bad.

PS: I may have one if you're interested, but if may be the only spare I have for Ruby.


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