Brake Setups-->whats the best for us 4th GENer's

[Importkitz]

My front brakes are going bad and i should upgrade them instead of just resurfacing and replacing pads. i need info on which brakes are good/bad, problems with aftermarket brakes/rotors, etc.

i have 4 wheel disc brakes with ABS.

[aero]

After I wrote all of this, I forgot you had ABS...I am not sure if this could be done w/ABS, but Im sure someone has the answer to that...but I guess for all of the 90-91's, heres some help for your brake upgrade options.

I have been trying to find the same answer, and I think I have. I am sure you know that we have the hub over rotor design, which means that it is a major pain in the ass to change the rotors. (This usually takes having the assembly taken off, and then taking them to a shop to be pressed off)

There is one way to get rid of this, and that is to use the hubs off of a 99' Acura CL 2.3

Then, there are two routes to take from there.

- The cheaper route, with about the same stopping power is to use your stock calipers and just buy rotors from the 99 CL 2.3. So you will be paying for the hubs( I think about 40 per side, which should come with new bearings) and then the price of the rotor.

- The more expensive but upgraded performance route is to buy the 99 cl 2.3 Hubs. For rotors, you have a choice of from a 95 prelude si(that generation of preludes i think is the 4th gen) and the caliper and caliper braket for the same year. You can also get the front rotors off of an accord wagon(90-97). The other caliper/bracket setups you could use is from an NSX(not sure on the years) or from an early 90's Legend LS(which has bigger calipers than the nsx). I know that on the prelude setup that the smallest wheels you can fit on there would be the 15" alloy "premium" honda wheels.


*The price difference between the two options of upgrading is pretty much all in how much you can find the calipers and brackets for. There was an auction on ebay a week ago or so for the prelude si calipers for $43 shipped... which is a pretty good deal. but with those, you have to find a bracket to mount them on and the cheapest bet would be a junkyard or someone on one of these forums that is parting out one.

*When you are buying the rotors, pretty much all of the feedback that I have recieved is that unless you auto-x alot, or it is a race car drilled and slotted rotors do nothing for you, and you are just paying for the looks.

I hope I helped you all, and if you have any comments or questions feel free to ask. Right now I am thinking about doing the cheaper method just because I dont have the money for the calipers since I missed that auction.

[deevergote]

I figured I'd just add this here, rather than start a new thread.

I think my brakes are going, though I haven't looked yet. I'm looking into upgrading to some slotted rotors. I found some SP Performance rotors for like $100 a pair. From what the site says, it seems like they're worked over OEM rotors. However, they seem pretty good. Here's the link to the site where I found em, if anyone would care to check em out and let me know if they're worth the $100 or so:
http://www.raceshopper.com/sp_rotors...?google_pwrslt


OR...


I found a set of Brembo drilled & slotted rotors on eBay for $90 (plus $25 shipping). I know ebay links suck, but here they are. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2440426133

Would I be better off? I know drilled rotors tend to crack, but I don't really abuse my brakes, and they're Brembo! I would think that drilled Brembo rotors would be better than cheap-o slot-only rotors...

[Pugnare]

i just bought some Brembo slotted roters and Axxis Ultimate pads for up front. I really hope they aren't to hard to put it. Theres an auto X this weekend that I want to get to. Its going to suck not having a garage and the cold weather out here.

[Kabuki]

Originally posted by Pugnare
i just bought some Brembo slotted roters and Axxis Ultimate pads for up front. I really hope they aren't to hard to put it. Theres an auto X this weekend that I want to get to. Its going to suck not having a garage and the cold weather out here.

Yeah, uh... Rotor replacements require removal of the nuckle and a press... Sorry...

[Huy009]

Originally posted by Pugnare
i just bought some Brembo slotted roters and Axxis Ultimate pads for up front. I really hope they aren't to hard to put it. Theres an auto X this weekend that I want to get to. Its going to suck not having a garage and the cold weather out here.

just wanted to let you know that you have to atleast work in the pads and rotors in order for them to really function....

[Swifty1638]

Also to let you know..with the drilled rotors, good luck stopping..

Stock rotors are solid for a certain reason. When we brake in our passenger cars, we generate heat in the rotors, from the friction. Well, brakes need some heat to operate at the correct temperature. When you race in, say, ALMS, CART, IRL..whatever, you need drilled rotors. This is because you are braking from a much higher rate of speed. That causes the pads to "prematurly" wear, but more or less, allows waaay too much heat be contained in that area. Brakes need heat..but not that much heat. Drilled rotors dicipate heat like that, to a much safer level. Slotted rotors are for the occasional racer. They dicipate heat, but not much. So, they are still good for road use. By you putting those drilled rotors on your daily driver, yo uare gonna dicipate almost all the heat from the brakes..they will not work at their optimal performance levels, nad in my opinion, after testing this as well, your braking will in fact, be worse. So, good luck..I hope to hear your feedback, as to how it handles for you. I am not saying it is entire leaps and bounds here, but lets take a moment and think. Brakes are VERY important to a car..it is an area you don't wanna skip/play around. It's serious stuff. Remember, there is a reason why brakes on cars are that way, just as there is a reason to why that stock car sits at that certain level...so on and so on..

-A. Swift

[deevergote]

I see your point in that... However, I just put some Brembo slotted and drilled rotors on my car, along with some ceramic pads, and my car stops more smoothly and securely than it ever did in my 3 years of owning it. Just my experience... Of course, the rotors and pads are still only a couple weeks old. Who knows what will happen in the future...

[Jarrett]

Deevergote, you don't have to worry about your rotors cracking. Brembo goes the extra mile to prevent you from cracking them. Instead of drilling their rotors, Brembo casts them with holes already in them. This prevents the stress caused by drilling obviously. Just thought I'd let you know what a good set of rotors you. You're not just paying for the name.

[deevergote]

The only problem is that they were stock Brembo rotors, non-drilled... they were drilled and slotted by an aftermarket company. they're holding up nicely for now though! I love it! So smooth and quick to stop!

[pwrusr]

I've been wondering about this for a wile, and I do think I need to have some brake work done soon soooo.......
Are the stock sized rotors and calipers the only option for me? I was planing on doing the CL rotor swap with NSX calipers but after a quick look over the thread I don't know if it can be done because of the ABS.
what are my options?

[LX Rida]

I like USC setup.

[SoySauceCb7]

i can tell you right now what would be best, and it would be better than usc's set up but you dont have nearly the amoutn of money, just for a sneak peak, 4 pads are 800 dolars

[pwrusr]

I don't have that kind of money. I'm looking for a setup that can be had for about $800 max. As nice as USC's setup is I know I'd blow my budget out of the water. I know that I'd have a hard time with wheels and tires (budget wise). For me it's not really worth it.

My car is mainly going to be used as a daily driver. I might be doing some track days in the future.

[FDAccord]

I need a quick reply, can I buy rotors and pads for a 94-97 accord and put them on mine with no issue? I searched and didn't find anything pertaining to my case.