dsm turbo questions?

[rexload]

about 350 dollars. that was a rebuild kit,the whole turbo, the piping,the welding wire,needle valve fittings,jdm front mount intercooler.etc. its a lot of power-more then i expected. i used to own a dsm talon and it was never as fast as my accord is now and it isn't even tuned.and as long as you have a big enough intercooler you wont overheat the motor like everyone says.

what are you tuning with?

[Bcozzi71]

Find an Evo3 in the junkyard, and yes. It'll be sitting right next to the Skyline GT-R and Mitsubishi FTO.

haha and a NSX

[deevergote]

haha and a NSX

Yeah, but my point there was that none of the cars mentioned were ever sold in the US... though the NSX in a junkyard would be just as unlikely. I could probably find an NSX that was burned to a crisp that would sell for more than my CB7!

[KeeleDesign]

dude i promise you that the size intercooler i have had to replace the entire front grill,hood latch,center brace, and front bumper modification.it basically looks like a giant grill.lol looks good though.the intercooler is 3inches thick,36 inches long and 20 inches tall. its a custom made jdm intercooler from japan my buddy got sent over with his jdm civic.

it's nice to know you put an intercooler on your car...
but this will not keep a turbo from getting hot.

Turbo's peak effeiceny is when they are at their hottest point. An intercoolers job is to relitively cool the air to the coldest it can so when it passes through the inferno, or turbo it doesn't become to hot for the combustion chamber causing knock, because it becomes so heat soaked.
In the end this causes the oil in the turbo to turn into coke , what looks and fills like sand., with that in advancing tares the bearings of the turbo to pieces.

unless you stay at a relitivly low psi, that keeps the turbo in it's proper range of effeciency.

without a tune on your car, could mean that you may have to much fuel, and that would only add to the heat buildup in the tiny turbo. killing it's life.

I am not meaning this in a negitive way torward you.. but when i here jdm,,, i think Junk Dirty Mess. jdm this jdm that. i think the phrase JDM lost it's junction of meaning when all kinds of fake products were produced with a jdm stamp.

Your intercooler size sounds like the size i had on my gsx. here is a link for the kit i had.
http://importevolution.com/product_i...676f4ed98f852f

Even with a $1000 kit such as that, i would have never believed or hoped that the intercooler could save my turbo.

Do you have any pictures of your setup? I'd really like to see them.

Did you have a seprate thread for this build, showing everything that went into it?

[deevergote]

Brandon, do you have an upgraded turbo on there, or are you still running the t25 yourself?


Of course, the t25 is ok on a 2.0L engine. Still small, but not dangerously so. That's why they're so cheap, though. Most DSMers chuck the baby snail for something better very quickly.

[KeeleDesign]

you may remeber that i did have the real 16g turbo, that i took apart and ported everything. It's in my gsx thread, with some pics.

and even then i felt it was lacking, and getting to hot for the amount of power i was pushing.
But because i had an automatic, i didn't need a late spooling turbo, unless i was gona do highway pulls,, but then that defeats the purpose of AWD.

[DaGrk1]

best way to get a 16g is to talk with guy's that have dsm's. that would be the best way to get a 16g.

[JDMchristian991]

pics

[deevergote]

you may remeber that i did have the real 16g turbo, that i took apart and ported everything. It's in my gsx thread, with some pics.

and even then i felt it was lacking, and getting to hot for the amount of power i was pushing.
But because i had an automatic, i didn't need a late spooling turbo, unless i was gona do highway pulls,, but then that defeats the purpose of AWD.

Oh yeah, I forgot. I made an ass of myself.

[92vig]

OP sounds like he doesn't know a damn thing about what he's doing. You said you're running everything UNTUNED???? Dude, you CANNOT safely run a turbocharger untuned. Either you will run too rich, too lean, knock, etc. You will fuck your engine fast. Trust me.

On my DSM, I did supporting mods, 1000cc injectors and when my DSMLink came and it had a base for 1000cc's but I was still running lean with knock. Got it dyno tuned and now its good, stoich, no knock.

You give no insight on what upgrades you did...you slapped a T25 on, and some cheap ass intercooler that probably doesn't flow for shit. Did I read you right that you spent $350 on this build??

Regarding the 16g...go to DSM vendors site and buy a 16g. You're not going to find an Evo3 anywhere. Buy it NEW, ported. I'm running a 14b at 20psi right now, upgraded aluminum radiator, water wetter, etc. check oil every day to make sure the heat isn't degrading it.

I suggest you read up on turbos before you kill your motor. I'm not bashing you but it sounds like you don't know a damn thing about what you just did to your car....sounds like you think you just put an intake and header on so you didn't have to tune it. Without a tune I doubt it would pull very hard at all.

[KeeleDesign]

OP sounds like he doesn't know a damn thing about what he's doing. You said you're running everything UNTUNED???? Dude, you CANNOT safely run a turbocharger untuned. Either you will run too rich, too lean, knock, etc. You will fuck your engine fast. Trust me.

On my DSM, I did supporting mods, 1000cc injectors and when my DSMLink came and it had a base for 1000cc's but I was still running lean with knock. Got it dyno tuned and now its good, stoich, no knock.

You give no insight on what upgrades you did...you slapped a T25 on, and some cheap ass intercooler that probably doesn't flow for shit. Did I read you right that you spent $350 on this build??

Regarding the 16g...go to DSM vendors site and buy a 16g. You're not going to find an Evo3 anywhere. Buy it NEW, ported. I'm running a 14b at 20psi right now, upgraded aluminum radiator, water wetter, etc. check oil every day to make sure the heat isn't degrading it.

I suggest you read up on turbos before you kill your motor. I'm not bashing you but it sounds like you don't know a damn thing about what you just did to your car....sounds like you think you just put an intake and header on so you didn't have to tune it. Without a tune I doubt it would pull very hard at all.

hey do you have a thread for your talon... i assume?

I also use DSMLINK on my GSX, i also had 1000 cc injectors. I'd like to see your car thread if at all possible.
mine is in my sig.

[92vig]

hey do you have a thread for your talon... i assume?

I also use DSMLINK on my GSX, i also had 1000 cc injectors. I'd like to see your car thread if at all possible.
mine is in my sig.

I haven't made one yet. I made one in the members ride thread then deleted it since it wasn't a CB....I'll make another one today or tomorrow. How's your 2g holding up?

[91-accord]

Enough with this arguing and crap.. Let's go back to the T25. So, I'm thinking about a T25 setup w/o the dsm maniflod. But any way, which is a better and safer option? T3/T4 or T25?

[quickangel93]

dude i promise you that the size intercooler i have had to replace the entire front grill,hood latch,center brace, and front bumper modification.it basically looks like a giant grill.lol looks good though.the intercooler is 3inches thick,36 inches long and 20 inches tall. its a custom made jdm intercooler from japan my buddy got sent over with his jdm civic.

thats a very big intercooler for a small ass turbo. bigger intercoolers means, pressure drop, and less hp. go with a 6" tall by 28" wide intercooler for anthing smaller than a 16g turbo.

btw that t25 will eventually melt your rings/pistons someday.

[quickangel93]

Enough with this arguing and crap.. Let's go back to the T25. So, I'm thinking about a T25 setup w/o the dsm maniflod. But any way, which is a better and safer option? T3/T4 or T25?

anything like a 14b or bigger