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**deevergote** · 10-01-2011, 01:33 AM

Has anyone watched Wangan Midnight? Turbo carb'd L28 in the main character's S30.

**evil_demon_01** · 10-01-2011, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by deevergote

Has anyone watched Wangan Midnight? Turbo carb'd L28 in the main character's S30.

Your obsessed with anime aren't you

**deevergote** · 10-01-2011, 01:40 AM

No way! I haven't watched in like... a week!

skilzz · 10-01-2011, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbycos

nice cars

in your part of the world what was the newest year of car you have seen with a carb?

nissan used carbs till verrryy late... on the JDM models im sure as we had tons come into our shop. im not sure about the cars for the US market

cuate01221 · 10-01-2011, 09:27 AM

Wow. All the carbed cars around where I live go fuel injection to go with turbo. I'm going to have to look into this more and do some research! Nice build btw evil_demon_01!

**deevergote** · 10-01-2011, 11:03 AM

Fuel injection makes for much better control over fueling, which is very useful with turbo. It also tends to be much more fuel-efficient. Boosting with a carb is like being a sniper with a bazooka... it works, it gets the job done, but it's not the most precise method.

Colin, was your setup non-intercooled?

92turboaccord · 10-01-2011, 01:36 PM

nobody remembers the 86 crx with the factory hks turbo setup?
im gonna have to find the mag and take some pics

**deevergote** · 10-01-2011, 02:05 PM

I've never heard of such a thing, nor can I find any information about HKS doing anything at all in terms of assisting in the creation of "factory modified" cars.

**evil_demon_01** · 10-01-2011, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by deevergote

Fuel injection makes for much better control over fueling, which is very useful with turbo.
Colin, was your setup non-intercooled?

Yea it was non intercooled, which is the ultimate reason for its demise.

The design (draw through) means that you CANNOT use an intercooler.
Imagine passing a fuel/air mix through an intercooler, then having a backfire.
Also the cooling effect on the fuel causes it to condensate on the intercooler and pipes, essentially turning the charge pipes into a mini Fuel tank!!

islandhopper · 10-01-2011, 03:28 PM

Sounds explosive.

bobbycos · 10-01-2011, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by skilzz

nissan used carbs till verrryy late... on the JDM models im sure as we had tons come into our shop. im not sure about the cars for the US market

curious as to how late

**deevergote** · 10-01-2011, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by evil_demon_01

Yea it was non intercooled, which is the ultimate reason for its demise.

The design (draw through) means that you CANNOT use an intercooler.
Imagine passing a fuel/air mix through an intercooler, then having a backfire.
Also the cooling effect on the fuel causes it to condensate on the intercooler and pipes, essentially turning the charge pipes into a mini Fuel tank!!

Yeah, that's no good!

Why can't you run an intercooler as you would on a fuel injected car? Turbo, intercooler, charge piping... THEN carb to introduce fuel...?

Hmmm... the Wangan Midnight car has a huge front mount... Now I want to know if it's actually carb'd (it's been forever since I watched it), or if it's an oversight on the part of the artists. Wangan Midnight and Initial D both focus quite heavily on being as realistic as possible when it comes to the cars, so it'd surprise me if they "built" a car that wasn't really possible to build.

**evil_demon_01** · 10-02-2011, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by deevergote

Yeah, that's no good!

Why can't you run an intercooler as you would on a fuel injected car? Turbo, intercooler, charge piping... THEN carb to introduce fuel...?

You can, (blow through design) but it opens up other problems, like you need to use a fuel pressure reg that raises the pressure only a few psi above the boost pressure (to prevent fuel being pushed back to the tank) yet low enough so that the fuel isn't forced past the needle seat.

Accrdwgnguy · 10-02-2011, 05:38 AM

Plenty or people still use carbs with turbos. I know of a local with a 350 V8 S10 putting down 433 whp, granted this is with a $900 CSU blow through carb.

skilzz · 10-02-2011, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbycos

curious as to how late

up to around 97 i think in the nissan sunny. (those things are ridiculously shitty in build quality. i still hate nissan today due to these

)

10-01-2011, 01:33 AM	#21
deevergote Don't call me dude. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Not New York Posts: 40,100	Has anyone watched Wangan Midnight? Turbo carb'd L28 in the main character's S30. __________________

10-01-2011, 01:40 AM	#23
deevergote Don't call me dude. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Not New York Posts: 40,100	No way! I haven't watched in like... a week! __________________

10-01-2011, 09:27 AM	#25
cuate01221 CB7tuner Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Southbridge, Massachusetts Posts: 715	Wow. All the carbed cars around where I live go fuel injection to go with turbo. I'm going to have to look into this more and do some research! Nice build btw evil_demon_01! __________________

10-01-2011, 11:03 AM	#26
deevergote Don't call me dude. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Not New York Posts: 40,100	Fuel injection makes for much better control over fueling, which is very useful with turbo. It also tends to be much more fuel-efficient. Boosting with a carb is like being a sniper with a bazooka... it works, it gets the job done, but it's not the most precise method. Colin, was your setup non-intercooled? __________________

10-01-2011, 02:05 PM	#28
deevergote Don't call me dude. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Not New York Posts: 40,100	I've never heard of such a thing, nor can I find any information about HKS doing anything at all in terms of assisting in the creation of "factory modified" cars. __________________

10-01-2011, 01:36 PM	#27
92turboaccord Classifieds Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Apple Valley, CA Posts: 589	nobody remembers the 86 crx with the factory hks turbo setup? im gonna have to find the mag and take some pics

10-01-2011, 03:28 PM	#30
islandhopper Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Freiburg, Germany Posts: 1,729	Sounds explosive. __________________ Form.Follows.Function

10-02-2011, 05:38 AM	#34
Accrdwgnguy Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Weare, NH Posts: 3,777	Plenty or people still use carbs with turbos. I know of a local with a 350 V8 S10 putting down 433 whp, granted this is with a $900 CSU blow through carb. __________________ 1992 Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser 1986 Chevrolet C10\|5.3L\|SM465\|Shortbed\|Custom Deluxe 1983 Malibu Wagon\|TPI 305\|T5 5 speed\|3.73 non-posi 1992 Accord Wagon (RETIRED)

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