+1 for the exercise of the 2nd Amendment

[fi2hm]

Originally Posted by stewie

hate to say it, but thats what i hate about your country...


why do you need to have a pistol on you while your shopping at walmart??? is it some sort of a status symbol??? make your dick bigger?? are you ever planning on using it to kill someone??

let the cops do their work, if he attacks you and he swings first, its self defence, sue the fucker...

i find it completely stupid to need to have a pistol on you 24/7

but thats just my views.

Get the fuck out of our country then you fucking bitch......

I like turtles

[deevergote]

Originally Posted by fi2hm

Get the fuck out of our country then you fucking bitch......

He lives in Canada.

And you are banned for a week. Ciao.

[stewie]

lol awwww seems like i made a new friend today lol

[GeoffM]

Originally Posted by LinX

I don't think I will ever forget that.

[turbomaxx]

Originally Posted by stewie

lol awwww seems like i made a new friend today lol

I still hate you enough to make up for your new friendship.



Kidding of course! I always respect someone's opinion, even if it doesn't come off that way. BTW, what happened to our PM debate? Did we ever finish it? If so, I will await your new topic of choice for us to argue like gentlemen over!

[mr_naler]

Originally Posted by turbomaxx

I still hate you enough to make up for your new friendship.



Kidding of course! I always respect someone's opinion, even if it doesn't come off that way. BTW, what happened to our PM debate? Did we ever finish it? If so, I will await your new topic of choice for us to argue like gentlemen over!

... I like arguing like gentlemen...

I must admit that I do not always respect someone's opinion. For instance, if it is not based off fact, or legitimate faith, as it could be argued that there are no facts in life. Anyways.

[HondaB18]

Originally Posted by turbomaxx

Stay on topic, or send me a PM. No one wants to come into a thread with a title about the 2nd amendment and read about your problems with me. I'm sure we can all agree with that.

post 62, 63, and 67. go back and read what you wrote

my posts weren't that on topic, but more so than yours... but then again look at post 73 and what you wrote

want me to continue? you keep contradicting yourself and giving wrong info dude. i like to keep things out in the open, no need to pm me it would be a waste

Originally Posted by mr_naler

I personally don't know that I would say I feel a need to, but I do feel safer knowing that I am better suited to defend myself or my family.

from what you wrote you do feel a need to carry because you feel the need to defend yourself in case anything were to happen

you keep saying protecting your family. if your neighborhood is so bad to the point you feel the need to carry (or unless paranoid sets in for you) why not move? safety should be the number one priority for you and your family

Originally Posted by deevergote

Many firearm crimes, especially in urban areas, ESPECIALLY in gang-related incidents, aren't committed by people carrying legal firearms. Granted, the same responsibilities apply to ANY firearm, legal or not... but still.

all firearms start out as legal. straw purchasing accounts for a majority, then there are private sales that doesn't require background checks, and stolen firearms etc. easier and more efficient to solve a problem from the root cause

[stewie]

Originally Posted by turbomaxx

I still hate you enough to make up for your new friendship.



Kidding of course! I always respect someone's opinion, even if it doesn't come off that way. BTW, what happened to our PM debate? Did we ever finish it? If so, I will await your new topic of choice for us to argue like gentlemen over!

lol forgot about that, ill reply right now

[Pandemic]

Originally Posted by HondaB18

from what you wrote you do feel a need to carry because you feel the need to defend yourself in case anything were to happen

you keep saying protecting your family. if your neighborhood is so bad to the point you feel the need to carry (or unless paranoid sets in for you) why not move? safety should be the number one priority for you and your family
It's not cheap to relocate. Some things may not be in the cards. Even if you live in the safest neighborhood on the planet, you could still run into trouble.


all firearms start out as legal. straw purchasing accounts for a majority, then there are private sales that doesn't require background checks, and stolen firearms etc. easier and more efficient to solve a problem from the root cause
You're right, aside from illegally manufactured, all firearms start out legal. Straw purchasing does happen and I'm fine with locking anyone who does it up for a very long time. It's not the majority, however. There ARE private sales that don't require a background check. Long guns only though for us law abiding citizens. Funny thing is that criminals don't care too much about laws so that's not much of an excuse. Stolen firearms is the biggie. Things like the mandatory 5 year additional sentence for a felon with a gun is a great program.

Thing is, who cares? There are MILLIONS of legal gun owners who never shoot up their neighborhoods, rob banks, or commit suicide. Everything we see on the news is a drop in a very big bucket. Criminals WILL get guns whether they're legal or not.

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[HondaB18]

we'll both agree that nothing is 100%, but probability wise there is less of a chance to be in a situation to need a gun in a safe neighborhood

you can not put a value on a person's life. i would rather live in a safe neighborhood and eat ramen than to live large in a crime ridden neighborhood eating lobster and shrimp

who cares? the innocent victims and their families involved in firearm violence (legal or illegal). as i said before, address the root cause of the problem

for every responsible owner i can find you an irresponsible one. news aside, a life lost is already one more than necessary (firearm related wise)

[mr_naler]

Originally Posted by HondaB18

we'll both agree that nothing is 100%, but probability wise there is less of a chance to be in a situation to need a gun in a safe neighborhood

you can not put a value on a person's life. i would rather live in a safe neighborhood and eat ramen than to live large in a crime ridden neighborhood eating lobster and shrimp

who cares? the innocent victims and their families involved in firearm violence (legal or illegal). as i said before, address the root cause of the problem

for every responsible owner i can find you an irresponsible one. news aside, a life lost is already one more than necessary (firearm related wise)

Percentage wise, I would never be in a situation that I would need my firearm. However, it's that small percentage that I am preparing for.

My neighborhood isn't the problem. Violent crimes happen everywhere in America, even in fancy neighborhoods. I am in a position that I can live in a decent neighborhood, not everyone is.

You will have a hard time finding the responsible ones. They are usually quiet about it. Other than activists, or people trying to raise awareness (e.g. me) will even announce it. Just because something can be dangerous in someone's hands doesn't mean we should outlaw something. Surgical tools can be very dangerous in certain people's hands, but are very effective in the proper hands. The fact of the matter is, that those who posses illegal firearms should face tougher penalties, as well as those who use them irresponsibly. Though, I think this would ultimately lead to more people be prosecuted, and unjustly at that. So this would fall into the category of good in theory, not so much practically.

[Pandemic]

No such thing as firearm violence. More like gang violence. People kill people, don't blame the weapon system.

I accept your challenge. I guarantee the responsible:irresponsible gun owners is NOT 1:1.

[turbomaxx]

Originally Posted by HondaB18

post 62, 63, and 67. go back and read what you wrote

my posts weren't that on topic, but more so than yours... but then again look at post 73 and what you wrote

want me to continue? you keep contradicting yourself and giving wrong info dude. i like to keep things out in the open, no need to pm me it would be a waste

There has been nothing contradicting about what I've said here or certainly someone would have pointed it out before you. That said, I'll happily fix your attitude problem the same way I've always done in the past. You can try to be an adult again at a later date, as decided by me.

Simply posted in a bad mood one day and came off abrasively, and again the next day when I wasn't in a bad mood. Didn't contradict myself, though.