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Old 04-05-2012, 03:42 AM   #1
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Exedy OE replacement or Stage 1

I know there are TONS of threads but none really compared the OEM Exedy vs Stage 1 Exedy.

I think I'm going to replace my clutch since I'm doing the Tranny rebuild might as well replace this since its got about 40k miles, but is the Exedy OE replacement is good for both the Accord and the Prelude VTEC?

When I looked up the clutches on Majestic, they're two different part numbers for the Accord and Prelude VTEC.

22200-PT7-013 and 22300-PT7-023 for the Accord for disc and pressure plate
22200-P13-005 and 22300-P13-005 for Prelude VTEC disc and pressure plate

So that leads me to believe that Honda made the Prelude one a bit beefier than the Accord one.

I'm just concerned that If I buy an Exedy OEM replacement, that it'll only have enough capacity meant for an Accord's F22 engine ~140hp vs my H22 engine ~200hp thats swapped in there right now. I know the torque between the two is only about a 20ft-lb difference but with the sporty nature of the H22 vs F22 should I be concerned at all?

My trans guy said that I'll be fine with the OEM replacement if I'm just keeping it NA w/ bolt-ons
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Old 04-06-2012, 01:50 PM   #2
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any opinions? I'm thinking the OE Exedy will be okay but I want to hear if anyone had any bad experiences w/ it using it on an H22A
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Old 04-06-2012, 02:15 PM   #3
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A lot will hinge on how you drive the car. If you spend most of your time in the lower rpm range where the H22A doesn't make much torque you'll be okay with an OE replacement. But if you ever launch it or do a lot of spirited power shifting then you're due for an upgrade whether you have an H22A or not.
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Old 04-08-2012, 12:57 PM   #4
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I have an exedy oe on my f22 which has 133whp, 126wtq. When I launch at 5k with launch control the clutch burns quite a bit.....so I do it rarely. Point is when I replace this clutch I'll be going with a stg1. It fits my driving style better. I think it depends on our driving style as was said before.

Why not just get an Exedy oe for the h22 engine instead of for the f22?
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Old 04-08-2012, 02:46 PM   #5
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I have an exedy oe on my f22 which has 133whp, 126wtq. When I launch at 5k with launch control the clutch burns quite a bit.....so I do it rarely. Point is when I replace this clutch I'll be going with a stg1. It fits my driving style better. I think it depends on our driving style as was said before.

Why not just get an Exedy oe for the h22 engine instead of for the f22?
they're the same clutch/Part Number for F22 and H22, thats what worries me. So what i'm wondering is how can a clutch made for an anemic 140hp F22 handle the same power as a clutch for the 200hp H22.
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Old 04-08-2012, 02:58 PM   #6
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If it's for the coupe in your sig, go with the stage 1. You have an H22 mated to an LSD transmission....go stage 1.
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Old 04-08-2012, 09:38 PM   #7
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If it's for the coupe in your sig, go with the stage 1. You have an H22 mated to an LSD transmission....go stage 1.
well yeah, i'm on the fence, but if I were to get something in that price range, I was considering an Action clutch

This one in particular:

http://www.actionclutch.com/index.ph...product_id=404

or Competition clutch Stage 1.5 w/ 50% holding capacity over stock:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Competition-...ht_2166wt_1139

Competition stage 2

http://www.ebay.com/itm/COMPETITION-...ht_2478wt_1270

but it's definitely getting up there in price, 3x that of a stock exedy easy. I was also THINKING about some autocross maybe in the summer time.
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Old 04-08-2012, 10:35 PM   #8
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I actually had both Exedy OEM and now I have Stage 1.

IMO go with stage 1, you won't regret it.


Accord and Prelude kits are the same for both OEM replacement and Stage 1.
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Old 04-08-2012, 10:43 PM   #9
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they're the same clutch/Part Number for F22 and H22, thats what worries me. So what i'm wondering is how can a clutch made for an anemic 140hp F22 handle the same power as a clutch for the 200hp H22.
Anemic? You are talking a 60hp difference.
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Old 04-09-2012, 02:17 AM   #10
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Anemic? You are talking a 60hp difference.
trust me, you can feel that difference, plus the H22 is a much sportier engine, stock to stock, which is how i'm thinking Exedy designed the OE clutch to be just sufficient for the F22 that never gets driven hard.

The way I drive my 4dr 90 EX 5spd CB is a LOT different than the way I drive my H22 M2B4 coupe, so I'm worried that it can't take the abuse.

I'm still looking for specs on the OEM Exedy clutch though...if it can handle 200whp or 200 tq then I'd be happy with that.

If you think about it, 60hp is about a 40% increase over stock going from the F22 to H22, so is the Stage 1 Exedy needed since it offers 36% increase over the OE Exedy?

So far the consensus seems to be to stay with my Stage 1 that I originally had...I mean it won't kill me to get it, I guess i'll just have to live a week without going out to the bars or whatever lol
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Old 04-13-2012, 06:22 PM   #11
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The 20ft lbs torque diff is the reason why they have the same oe clutch. Hp isent really going to bother the clutch the torque is.
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Old 04-14-2012, 03:28 PM   #12
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I'm running competition stg2. Have been since I got the H in and boosted it. Its pretty comfortable.
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