*Official Digital Camera Info Thread*

[starchland]

www.dpreview.com

www.steves-digicams.com

review sites that are good.

also things ive realized that are important:

-always shoot in RAW mode if possible
-always set custom white balance

[aznkid.com]

i shoot with a canon 1d

website here:
www.aznkid.com

[PakaloloHonda]

Here a few samples of why I feel digital will never replace film.
http://www.pbase.com/cameras/pentax/67_ii
It's the same camera I work with .. however, this guy has a bit more free time on his hands
then I will ever have .. and quite an eye for landscapes.

EDIT: You know .. I just realized that whenever you click on that link, it takes you to random shots .. so,
what I did was link you here to a few amazing shots that I consider .. well ... if I never told you ..
I'm sure you would believe these were digital .. feast your eyes ..
http://www.pbase.com/image/65603759
http://www.pbase.com/image/67921916
http://www.pbase.com/image/66058720
http://www.pbase.com/image/66080598
http://www.pbase.com/image/65604290
There are tons more ... simply click on the link I provided in this post .. and let it be known,
Ian Cameron doesnt use foto-shop .. its a no no to him ..

Be Prepared !!!
Tomi

[d112crzy]

i've had a kodak c330 for about a year now. it's pretty good camera, but lacks manual settings and sucks for close up pictures.

I've upgraded to an Olympus sp-350. its a great camera, I'm still learning it, but its kinda hard because the manual is on a damn cd. so I have to come back to my computer whenever i have a problem or question.

[starchland]

Here a few samples of why I feel digital will never replace film.
http://www.pbase.com/cameras/pentax/67_ii
It's the same camera I work with .. however, this guy has a bit more free time on his hands
then I will ever have .. and quite an eye for landscapes.

please check out http://www.edward burtynsky.com/WORKS/Breaking_Ground/Breaking.html

[aznkid.com]

Here a few samples of why I feel digital will never replace film.
http://www.pbase.com/cameras/pentax/67_ii
It's the same camera I work with .. however, this guy has a bit more free time on his hands
then I will ever have .. and quite an eye for landscapes.

EDIT: You know .. I just realized that whenever you click on that link, it takes you to random shots .. so,
what I did was link you here to a few amazing shots that I consider .. well ... if I never told you ..
I'm sure you would believe these were digital .. feast your eyes ..
http://www.pbase.com/image/65603759
http://www.pbase.com/image/67921916
http://www.pbase.com/image/66058720
http://www.pbase.com/image/66080598
http://www.pbase.com/image/65604290
There are tons more ... simply click on the link I provided in this post .. and let it be known,
Ian Cameron doesnt use foto-shop .. its a no no to him ..

Be Prepared !!!
Tomi

Thinking that digital will never replace film is just being ignorant. I've shot both 35mm film, 4x5 film, and digital. The fact that you can't even spell "Photoshop" properly tells me that you haven't the slightest idea about today's standards. I work with hundreds of photographers and not a single one shys away from digital. Why? Because it's the standard. Not a single one WON'T do some processing digitally ont heir image. Why? Because it's the standard. I'm not knocking film, because yes, it's still fun to use and it has its time and place, but get with the times. Digital is here, and it's here to stay.

[accordaffair]

You might be saying that to the wrong person.

[aznkid.com]

how do you figure?

[deckeda]

^^ d112crzy needs a cheap printer.

Only thing I ever learned about photography (which ain't much) was with a manual SLR. It had a light meter but that was all. You learn the relationship between shutter speed and aperature, pros and cons of each for a particular type of shot. You learn about focal length beyond merely "near" or "far".

Auto exposure-everything doesn't teach you that, so you're left at the mercy of the camera, which is only programmed for "average" shots. (Hint: there's pretty much no such thing as an "average" shot in real life.)

What's worse, modern cameras hide or obfuscate the manual settings.

But I traded it on on autofocus camera because I kept finding myself losing shots because it took time to focus. Near the moment of exposure I felt I had time to tweak exposure or focus but not both. At least that's what I told myself. More likely the case was that I hated the idea of taking a series of shots on the same subject in order to bracket. << #1 clue of amateur status!

I still have my film SLR even though all I do now is use my dSLR. I kept the film because I thought I may want it. I've never really wanted to shoot film again because of the expense, although for a time was interested in slides but didn't pursue it.

^^^ Which brings me to the next topic: shooting for a particular purpose.

Shooters who primarily live on the net gotta have digital. It's simply an expensive pain in the ass to always convert from film, and with poor results likely.

Shooters who primarily like to share photos or keep photos in a book could go either way. The use and experience is very different for each medium, enough that I won't claim one is better. Preference is key here.

Shooters who primarily like to share large images for presentation either shoot slides or don't care what they look like --- you'd go broke in a digital system and projector trying to capture the quality of slides, so a "practical" or "good enough" system will look worse.

^^^ Most amateurs don't ask themselves what they will be shooting, and so let the camera type effectively decide for them. In years past I put photos in albums; everybody did. A few decades ago it was popular for amateurs to shoot slides and invite the neighbors over. That doesn't really happen any more, even though now we have big screen TVs and various ways to show pictures on-screen, often with professional presentation help from a computer.

I don't think there's a perfect way. Digital is great because of online, but a computer screen won't have the resolution that paper offers. And even with a laptop, pictures aren't really as portable. With digital, we've both gained and lost something.

[accordaffair]

I agree that digital is the way of the future, but he's not ignorant when it comes to photography.

Give him a few weeks with his new camera, but he can still have an opinion. Digital still doesn't look as good as film, but I think its just becasue it hasn't gotten there yet.

[deckeda]

And for the pros in the audience, my comments above of course apply only to amateurs. Pros choose whatever pros choose, for the reasons they have. Some will never go digital unless supplies dry up, some will never go back to film.

BOTH choices are based on perceived advantages and familiarity with the medium, and as long as they can each point to a portfolio that pays the mortgage, their choice IS best.

[aznkid.com]

Give him a few weeks with his new camera, but he can still have an opinion. Digital still doesn't look as good as film, but I think its just becasue it hasn't gotten there yet.

How could you possible compare medium format to an A95? (or even his pentax 67ii to an A95)..

that's like giving him a week to drive a 2006 civic versus a 1987 ferrari f40 and see how it compares..

shoot with a phase one digital back on a 645 or on a 1 series canon.. that would be a comparison

as for digital not looking as good as film, i just don't think you've seen good digital prints..

[accordaffair]

I don't think he's getting an A95, but he's never used digital before. He's going to pick up a digi soon. I think he was looking at an 8mp canon P&S

[PakaloloHonda]

Thinking that digital will never replace film is just being ignorant. I've shot both 35mm film, 4x5 film, and digital. The fact that you can't even spell "Photoshop" properly tells me that you haven't the slightest idea about today's standards.

Wowww .. who pissed in your cornflakes?

#1 .. After almost 30 years behind the lens myself, and having used every format
that you've mentioned, along with a few others I might add .. and with established clients
such as Olgivy/Mather, Fawcett McDermot, and J.Walter Thompson, just to name a few ..
I would hope, give you a better understanding of my background .. as a professional!

#2 Photo would be the American spelling .. however, if you've ever spent time
in Europe, which I highly doubt .. you would know for a fact that Europeans spell it as, Foto.

Seeing as how I was listing some of Ian Cameron's stunning images that were made with a 6X7,
and being that he lives .. well .. you know .. over there .. on the other side of the World ..
Well .. I think you get my point ..

This debate has gone on since digital has arrived .. and I guess, will continue to till time ends!
However, calling me "ignorant" is I guess, your *opinion* .. and you're more then welcome
to any one, or a baker's dozen of them should you prefer ..

I'd like to also add that me not "being aware of today's standards" (to quote you)
is errrr, how do I put this .. ummm, an ignorant statement for you to make .. lol!
So you base the fact that I'm ignorant because I dont know the standards of today?
How do you know that? Because in your mind I mis-spelled Foto? Geeez duude ..

Might I suggest an earlier evening tonight so that you may gain more valuable rest, or perhaps
a quick stop to your local red-light district to well, you know .. relieve some stress?

Being that I said, "This is one reason I believe digital will never replace film" is of course,
my opionon .. and correct me if I'm wrong but errr, we are in America, no?
So then, I would assume that I am also entitled to my own opinion ..

No need to call anyone ignorant .. after all, not only do we both own Accords and, well
come here to network but, heyyy .. we're both (and I'll spell it correct for you) Photographers!
Imagine that .. on the other hand .. if you've never seen Photo spelled as Foto ..

Well .. I rest my case !!!
Tomi

[PakaloloHonda]

Two more incredible images by Ian Cameron ..
http://www.pbase.com/image/68088805
http://www.pbase.com/image/67072497

And I stand by what I said earlier .. Mr Cameron uses no *digital* post production
in any of his works .. how do I know this? I've met the man .. and had numerous
conversations with him over the topic of digital anything ..

If you read his exif data, he uses ND filters .. and also photographs his landscapes
with slow shutter speeds .. sometimes up to 12 minutes .. which we all know saturates
any film emulsion! He also rates the film speed to a different ISO .. as do I,
and when I send the exposed 220 rolls to my lab, there's never a mention of a difference in ISO!

Ansel Adams had his brother print all his work in the darkroom. To this day however,
everyone praises Ansel .. hmm, maybe we're praising the wrong Adams'?

A Hui Hou !!!
Tomi