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Old 12-07-2010, 10:43 AM   #1
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Straight cut transmission

Has anybody put one of these in? When I eventually switch I think it would be cool. If so, where did you get it and how much did it cost?
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Old 12-07-2010, 10:45 AM   #2
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Dogbox. They are custom made in most cases, and VERY expensive. Also not at all suited to a daily driven car. That's a race-only unit. I've heard of one or two people on here that have had them (I think only one was in a CB) and even those guys said they would never drive their car on the street with it.

They are strong, and take lots of abuse. If you plan on making a 700whp drag car, you'll want one. Otherwise... it's far too much for a street-driven hobby car.

Two well known manufacturers of full race transmissions are PPG and MFactory. Both only show applications for B and K series engines on their sites, but apparently they used to make H/F stuff. You may be able to contact them for information.

The prices I saw on the sites started at $4000. I'm quite sure that some additional modification will be needed. You would probably need to convert to a rod shifting setup, rather than the H/F cable setup... that won't be cheap either.
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Old 12-07-2010, 10:50 AM   #3
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Well never-mind then, I only wanted it because it sounded cool...
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Old 12-07-2010, 11:05 AM   #4
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Yeah, that's the WORST way to plan mods for your car
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Old 12-07-2010, 12:20 PM   #5
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At the risk of whoring.....AAHHAHAHAHAHA, that's hilarious but so ridiculously prevalent and true!
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Well never-mind then, I only wanted it because it sounded cool...
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It's like those threads where people say "I want a blow off valve... what do I need to install one on my bone stock engine?"

They have no idea what it does. They just heard someone mention it on a forum and they want to be cool like the big boys.


I'm going to start talking about how cool a vasecotmy is, and see if I can get anyone to post asking what it takes to get one!
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Old 12-07-2010, 01:44 PM   #8
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I've heard of one or two people on here that have had them (I think only one was in a CB) and even those guys said they would never drive their car on the street with it.
Well, at least it would be unique!

I got the idea from here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSJ-HzNWJGM

Just imagine having friends with you, or even driving by someone at 15 mph!
It'd be hilarious, but not $4k hilarious

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Old 12-07-2010, 02:03 PM   #9
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increase the tension on your timing belt, it'll give a supercharger whine.
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I have to admit, I also thought about this:
http://www.turbowhistler.net/exotic-cars/exoticcar9.htm
I saw it on top gear.

As long as we're on the subject of transmissions, has anybody put in a 6 speed?
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I have to admit, I also thought about this:
http://www.turbowhistler.net/exotic-cars/exoticcar9.htm
I saw it on top gear.

As long as we're on the subject of transmissions, has anybody put in a 6 speed?
Yes, the few that have done a k-swap. There is not a 6speed that will bolt up to the f22 and cb7 without adapter plates and custom mounts/axles. It isn't just a simple "putting in a 6-speed".
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Well, at least it would be unique!

I got the idea from here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSJ-HzNWJGM

Just imagine having friends with you, or even driving by someone at 15 mph!
It'd be hilarious, but not $4k hilarious



Maybe it's time to redo your sig...?
That video made me poop a little bit.

Unless you're planning a wicked motor build, that tranny would be a waste. But it would sound wicked awesome...
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It's like those threads where people say "I want a blow off valve... what do I need to install one on my bone stock engine?"

They have no idea what it does. They just heard someone mention it on a forum and they want to be cool like the big boys.


I'm going to start talking about how cool a vasecotmy is, and see if I can get anyone to post asking what it takes to get one!
thats sound like fun, no more kids .... im cool wit that...
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Take out your wheel bearings, fill them with dirt and put them back in. Now you sound cool like a race car y0.
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Take out your wheel bearings, fill them with dirt and put them back in. Now you sound cool like a race car y0.
No they don't, it sounds like a grinding/roaring noise - like a muffler rubbing. It's really annoying.

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thats sound like fun, no more kids .... im cool wit that...
It's working already!
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There's a video of PPG's owner showing that a dogbog is perfectly fine to drive on the street if done right. That's a sequential gearbox in the video though. You can have a H-pattern dog box, which would be far cheaper and more practical for a CB7. That is what the PPG gear set would essentially do.

Then, you put a strain gauge on the shifter and have your Motec cut spark when you shift.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_1jO64tuQA
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Actually.... they ARE pretty cool.

All the fun with none of the risk.
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Has anybody put one of these in? When I eventually switch I think it would be cool. If so, where did you get it and how much did it cost?
Straightcuts dont mean dog engagement. You had it right, the car in that vid is a dog engaged straighcut set with Sequential shifter that uses a cut to make it "clutchless shifting".

My straightcut set is syncroed. Cost about 4K for the set.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq6xV...eature=related

FOr H and F series stuff.... Saenz has had a set for years (Its the one I have), Then came PPG with thier dog engaged set, then M factory (I know theirs is synced, we put one in mitches lude- not sure if theyhave a dog set yet) and now Albins (Semi Helical, synd or dog engagement).


I like the sound of my straightcuts, and they are a neccesity at over 600 WHP (moreso for tq above 400 ish).

Well see how long it lasts at 750 WHP and 575 Tq ;O) Im looking for a forged final drive now.



That being said... can a dogbox be driven on the street? Sure... Will it get fucked up doing so? Yes. That PPG video shows you can, Its NOT practical. Regular shifting or lazy shifting will round the edges of the dogs and youll be reeplacing them alot on the street. You need to shift them very agressivly or speed match VERY well... Nice thing about the Albins is that you can swap the faceplates off of the gears and you dont have to buy a whoule new gear :O)
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