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Old 01-20-2005, 09:48 AM   #1
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SUSP : Rear 5-Lug Conversion

Alright, here you have a quick how-to of how to convert your CB7's rear to 5-Lug. F22A (Sean) will be doing the DIY for the front, since he took allot of pictures of the front and I took allot of the back. This is really easy to do, it just seems more difficult then it really is. I hope this helps everyone out.

This is assuming you are doing the swap to a 92/93 EX (93 SE) with OE ABS and rear disc brakes. If you do not have rear disc brakes you will first need to convert your rear drums to rear discs. For those of you who CONVERT from drums to discs the ABS parts of this DIY do not apply.

Parts you need:
- 97-01 Honda Prelude rear hub and bearing assembly x2
Part number: 42200-S30-C51
List Price: $140.92 each
Should pay: $110.00 +/- each
- 97-01 Acura Integra Type-R rear rotors x2
Part Number: 42510-ST7-R00
List Price: $94.95 each
Should pay: $80.00 +/- each
- 97-01 Prelude rear Axle Nut x2
Part Number: 90305-S30-003
List Price: $8.20 each
Should pay: $6.50 +/- each

I bought the hub and bearings from a junkyard before I realized exactly what I really needed from the Prelude and how much those parts cost new. For the rear of the swap I strongly suggest buying new OE hub/bearings. As for the rotors buy whatever you can, OE, Brembo, etc. I chose to go with cheap chinese made rotors, They cost me $22.00 a peice with my discount and do just as good a job as the others.

Total I spent for the rear swap: $244.00 even
- $100 x2 for junkyard Prelude rear suspension (mistake, should have bought new).
- $22.00 x2 for 97-01 ITR rotors.

I already had very new brake pads from when I just recently did my brakes so I resued them.

Lets get started.

Step 1: Jack the car up and secure it on jack stands:


Step 2: Take off wheel (Duuuhhhh):


Step 3: Remove bracket securing brake line (two 12mm head bolts), remove caliper (two 12mm head bolts), and remove caliper bracket (two 14mm head bolts). *Not Pictured.

Step 4: Remove dust cap exposing 32mm nut and remove 32mm nut:


*Note: Notice the little balls in the bearing assembly? That means the bearings race has stayed behind on the shaft. This is normal for older cars.


Step 5: Remove the bearings race from the shaft, To do this spray behind the race and between the race and shaft with PB Blaster, allow it to soak, then using a pry bar or large flat head screw driver, pry the race out of the shaft from behind. Meaning wedge the pry bar between the race and dust shield. DO NOT SCORE or MARK UP SHAFT!


*Note: Here's the race out:


*Note: Here's what the shaft should look like:


*Note: Complete rear 97-01 Prelude suspension:


Step 6: Remove two phillips screws holding prelude rotor to hub, remove dust cap exposing 32mm axle nut, and remove axle nut.


*Note: The Prelude's bearing should NOT leave the race behind, If it does, discard this bearing, it's junk and will whine and hum if you try to re-use it, This is why I say go new, it's worth it. I got lucky.

*Note: Notice the difference between the Preludes Spindle nut and the Accords Nut/Washer combination. You want to use the Prelude's nut as it has more thread to grab the shaft.


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Old 01-20-2005, 09:49 AM   #2
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*Note: Notice the difference in size of the Excitor rings on the hub assemblies. This will require you to move the ABS sensor. We will cover this soon.


*Note: Notice the difference between the Prelude rotor's hat hieght and the ITR rotor's hat hieght. This is the reason you MUST use the ITR's rotor. You CAN NOT use the Prelude's rotor like some other DIY's state. I found this out the hard way.


*Note: Ok here is my idea for the ABS sensor relocation. Basically you will remove the sensor factory bolts, replace them with longer ones, and shim the sensor out to the correct new position. In the picture I used standard M10 nuts as shims but this proved to move the sensor to far away. I later corrected the problem but didin't take updated pictures.

To properly shim the sensor I used three zinc 5/16" washers per bolt. Meaning 12 in total (3x4). This put the sensor at just the right distance.


Step 6: Remove the ABS Sensor:
Remove the sensor's two 12mm bolts, pull the sensor out the back of the dust shield (Do not twist and turn the sensor, the wire must remain as uncoilded as possible!).


Step 7: Shim the ABS Sensor:
Now that the sensor is out, slide your two longer bolts threw and slap your three washers per bolt on. Getting the sensor back up threw the dust sheild and into position can be a real bitch, just be patient and don't lose your cool. I had to do it several times to get the correct measurement, you only have to do it once, be happy!


*Note: Remember you need to use washers to get the correct hieght, not nuts like in the picture, I just didn't take new pictures of the correction.

*Note: Clean the ABS sensor off real good with Brake parts cleaner and a rag. If the sensor is just alittle dirty it'll throw the ABS system into "fail-safe" and turn on the light.

Step 8: Tighten the sensor back up:


*Note: This is the general idea allthough your sensor should be allot closer, remember these pictures are before the correction!


Step 9: Install the Prelude hub and axle nut. notice that the axle nut will not go all the way down, this is ok. Just torque the nuts to spec. You will still be able to stake the nut so it doesn't walk off.


Step 10: Get your baby sledge and Center punch ready to stake the nut.


Step 11: Hit the nut at the very edge where the nut body ends and the nuts lip begins, Hit it HARD!.


*Another view, see it's staked.


Alright time to reasemble!!!

Step 12: Put your ITR rotor on there and secure it with the two phillips head screws.


Step 13: Reinstall the caliper bracket, caliper, and brake line bracket.


Step 14: Slap on your new(er) 5-lug wheels, jack up the car, remove jack stand, lower car, put away your tools, and don't forget to feel good about yourself.


Well that's it, your 5-lug should now be done. If you think this was easy the front is even easier!. The front can be more time consuming so keep your eyes out for F22A's (Sean) DIY so you know what you are getting into. I didn't take any pix of the front since I've taken apart the front of Honda's so many times it's self expanitory to me. Don't worry though. The front is no big deal.

For those intrested the total I spent on my conversion is $661.61. Price break down is as fallows:
- $200 for Prelude rear suspension.
- $150 for Odyssey front suspension. Edit: My front brake calipers are from a 1995 Acura Legend LS Sedan (Single Piston, 23T Bracket).
- $44 for ITR rear rotors.
- $52.61 for Misc. nuts and bolts from Honda that where either messed up of not there that I needed for the swap and for OE brake pads.
- $15.00 for Misc. parts from Advance Auto Parts (replacement studs and brake fluid).
- $200 for Bronze painted RSX stocks from a friend of mine. I'm just riding on them for now, but they look alright.

- Total: $661.61

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Old 01-20-2005, 09:58 AM   #3
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working pics would be nice.. lol

edit.. if those are rsx or tsx rims.. there goes my idea of being original..
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Old 01-20-2005, 10:01 AM   #4
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working pics would be nice.. lol
Maybe you need to wind up your computer?
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Old 01-20-2005, 10:03 AM   #5
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lol.. first time all i saw was red X's... after i posted.. THEN they desided to show.. bastards..
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Old 01-20-2005, 10:08 AM   #6
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thanks busted this will deffinatly help if not im going 2 florida in the summer ill hunt u down so u can help lol good stuff though thanks
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Old 01-20-2005, 10:13 AM   #7
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Old 02-12-2005, 01:34 AM   #8
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would that conversion be the same for drum brakes?
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would that conversion be the same for drum brakes?
No you must first convert your Drum brakes to Disc brakes and then convert from that.
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Old 02-12-2005, 01:38 PM   #10
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Thanks man, its gonna be awhile before I can do that cuz I'm broke haha.
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I can take some updated pictures while doing the back as the originals aren't there anymore. Is it possible to have them added?
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Just to add to this thread while I was doing my rear 5lug I took pictures of the spindle nut so you could see the differences. Thanks to gunrunner I did not know I did not have to use the washer with the nut. The prelude nut has kind of a washer made on to it.

Accord on top, Prelude on bottom




Now the CB one with the added washer



And for people that want to know what the race looks like when it gets stuck, here it is. I had already started it to get it off. But here's the idea.



And last the Accord rotors compared to the type R. They look exactly the same

The ones on the left are the type R the ones on the left are my buddies CB rotors.


And the finish product



Hope this helps when others are doing this.
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Hope this helps when others are doing this.
More pics always helps!
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I tried taking off my rear hub lastnight and for some reason I wasn't able to. Axle nut off and washer off. Any clue or tips?
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I tried taking off my rear hub lastnight and for some reason I wasn't able to. Axle nut off and washer off. Any clue or tips?
Get a cheap puller, or put your old rotor back on and hammer on it.
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97-01 Honda Prelude rear hub and bearing assembly
Part number: 42200-S30-C51 and 97-01 Acura Integra Type-R rear rotors
Part Number: 42510-ST7-R00 ( Do not fit ) !!! The hub is too large for the Type -R rotor. Did anyone here, actually buy oem honda parts??? Are there any solid answers on how to fix this ??? any help would be greatly appreciated.
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people who used OEM parts usually got them from a parts Honda prelude they found. The majority of people including myself just bought the parts from an auto parts store and had no issue at all.

The part numbers you have are correct but It seems there must of been a mistake on the labeling of those from the manufacturer . My suggestion to you is go to an auto parts store and buy an aftermarket one from there and see if you still have that same issue.
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I hope your suggestion works, thanks for the quick reply.
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Unfortunately i'm still unable to complete the swap! all my part #s are correct, and all parts are OE honda. I've even tried a aftermarket itr rotor but i'm still having the same problem ( The hub is too large for the rotor)..... Does Anyone else have a suggestion ??
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