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    EDIT OF PREVIOUS COMMENT (UP ABOUT 5 COMMENTS): Come to think of it, I don't see how having the crankshaft off 180 deg would cause valve/piston conflicts. What would happen is exhaust valves instead of intake valves would open when intake valves were supposed to open, but there should be no mechanical impacts. If you were off 15 degrees or 20 degrees, you would have impacts, but not exact 180 degrees (or, I think, off the top of my head, exact 90 degrees, but I'm less sure of that).

    just reset everything right and you should be fine.
    Last edited by batever; 06-09-2011, 01:59 PM.

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      #17
      So is there anyway to check for a belt valve? Or what's the best way fir checking? Gonna go at it again today and just want to check everything I can. And would anyone mind telling me each and everything I should line up. The help is very much appreciated. Thank you.
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        #18
        do you hear exhaust in you intake manifold?, Do a compression test to see if they are bent, it takes 15 minutes.
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          #19
          I would deff. Do a compression test!
          Can you hear any valves tapping? I had a friend break a valve( snapped off) due to being off timing cost him 300 to get fixed!
          He kept trying to get it started and redoing timing while the valve was smacking around, the day we took off the head to check it was welded to the piston and the valve seat was damaged. luckily not to bad Where the machine shop couldnt fix.

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            #20
            Originally posted by batever View Post
            EDIT OF PREVIOUS COMMENT (UP ABOUT 5 COMMENTS): Come to think of it, I don't see how having the crankshaft off 180 deg would cause valve/piston conflicts. What would happen is exhaust valves instead of intake valves would open when intake valves were supposed to open, but there should be no mechanical impacts. If you were off 15 degrees or 20 degrees, you would have impacts, but not exact 180 degrees (or, I think, off the top of my head, exact 90 degrees, but I'm less sure of that).

            just reset everything right and you should be fine.
            Second.

            180 off would not cause mechanical impact.

            Reset the timing completely, and don't go by the arrow/mark on the harmonic balancer. Those marks are only for reference, as you could mistake it by a fraction of an inch and make your timing off a tooth. Place a long screwdriver inside spark plug hole number one and find the true TDC (and you won't be 180 off if the timing mark is near the arrow).

            As stated before, the marks on the back of the cam gear will be level with the edge of the head, not the horizontal plane of the earth, so make sure that is set correctly. Also, make sure that when you are installing the timing belt that you run the left side first, then feed it around the water pump etc. This will set the connection between the cam and the crank, keeping sure that neither jumps.

            Next order of business: distributor and ignition timing. Simply moving your distributor WILL NOT CHANGE YOUR TIMING. The ECU automatically stabilizes the ignition timing if it senses it is off. This is why in order to change our ignition timing we must jump the two-wire harness behind the glove box. It's not your ignition timing, don't worry about it.

            Last order of business (and I can't believe no one caught this)... You said you changed the lower tube o-rings? This requires removal of the rocker arm assembly. You have to redo your valve lash every time it is removed. Being a tooth off in timing will make the car run "funny," but not make it sputter and bog; valve lash being way off will. (Unless it's two or three teeth off, in which case you will probably have bigger fish to fry.)

            All of this, of course, in consideration with the comments above regarding a compression test, just to rule out any head damage.

            Good luck! And keep us updated. Maybe even post a few pictures of the timing you are setting it to.
            Last edited by JesterMasque; 06-11-2011, 11:05 AM.
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              #21
              torquing down the bolts today and snapped two into the head.. Motor had 250k+ miles on it and was put together by the hulk.. so now... H motor swap in is the mail as we speak..
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