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Old 03-01-2009, 10:01 PM   #21
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No dont take it that way i left it alone. But there are some problems people is runing into trying to make this thing work. I had to update my write up cause i left that out at the time cause i was in the process of doing the vtec g23 and that was one of the issues that came up. i got pictures i will post them when i get a chance. But the G series build argueing over who knows more i leave it to those who think there way is better.
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Old 03-01-2009, 10:42 PM   #22
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Nice write-up. Head swaps can be some of the best ways to gain very decent power without spending bookoo amounts of cash.

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Old 03-02-2009, 06:17 PM   #23
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I agreed with baggon saying he is right, he was asking me again to make sure. The water pump you use if for the block the gear is for the h22. And you don't have to take the pump to a machine shop to remove the gear, its not pressed on very tight at all. And if your going to do this you should be replacing the water pump anyway while its apart. And thats why I said get ahold of used h22 water pump if possible. Don't know where your getting your ls cam gears, but that would be a little harder to find then a water pump. More expensive to buy new, and I wouldn't buy cheap aftermarket adjustables either. But its your car so thats another option. THIS IS A GUIDE FOR PEOPLE, and a def way of doing it that works, so whichever way people want to do it thats up to them. Like I said this is kinda to help Deev feel better ......end rant
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Old 03-02-2009, 11:41 PM   #24
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I agreed with baggon saying he is right, he was asking me again to make sure. The water pump you use if for the block the gear is for the h22. And you don't have to take the pump to a machine shop to remove the gear, its not pressed on very tight at all. And if your going to do this you should be replacing the water pump anyway while its apart. And thats why I said get ahold of used h22 water pump if possible. Don't know where your getting your ls cam gears, but that would be a little harder to find then a water pump. More expensive to buy new, and I wouldn't buy cheap aftermarket adjustables either. But its your car so thats another option. THIS IS A GUIDE FOR PEOPLE, and a def way of doing it that works, so whichever way people want to do it thats up to them. Like I said this is kinda to help Deev feel better ......end rant

your right you could go out and buy a water pump but when you do that water pump swap you will see how hard it is to take it off with out damaging the water pump then when you do put it on how long it will last without leaking. most people take it to a machine shop to have them do it. A pair of LS cam Gears are not hard to find every junk yard in America has a LS it shouldnt cost no more than 20 bucks for the gears. Like i said in my write up months ago alot of people has a different way to do the swap some hard some easy which ever the best way to get it done. Yeah my car is a g23 non vtec my buddies is a g23 vtec that i just help finish. So i was telling you this as a option on getting this thing to run and another thing when you water pump goes out you will have to do that process all over again of changing the water pump gear. Save money if you can for future reference
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Old 03-03-2009, 07:22 AM   #25
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i don't think you read what i wrote man. Your using a NEW water pump not a used one the only reason your getting a used water pump is for the gear. The only thing that leaks is the seal on the water pump. the only other thing that goes bad is the bearing rarely. Its not hard at all to press off a gear. If someone is really having trouble doing this then I wouldn't reccomend even doing this swap. What you think is hard and what other people think is hard, is two different things. I wouldn't want to stretch on a timing belt. But thats what you do. If you want bump up your write up or have it stickied by a mod, I'm good with mine thanx ne way for your input
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Old 03-03-2009, 08:34 AM   #26
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Geeze! Man! Let this DIY be, stay in your own!
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Old 03-03-2009, 02:59 PM   #27
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yea i'll have to ask one of the mods to delete this whole conversation
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Old 03-03-2009, 05:00 PM   #28
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Would the timing even be correct using ls gears?..I mean u change the crank sprocket for tooth spacing and for timing interval changes..so how would using a h23a sprocket and ls gears work out timing wise.
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Old 03-03-2009, 08:33 PM   #29
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Would the timing even be correct using ls gears?..I mean u change the crank sprocket for tooth spacing and for timing interval changes..so how would using a h23a sprocket and ls gears work out timing wise.
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the water pump gear is not hard to switch, and as the OP stated, if you cant get the gear off, dont do this swap.
hell go to a honda dealer and ask them to save a old H22 pump then you can use the belt/tooth spacing honda intended for the head.....

Haulass247's writeup is very good, i did my swap this way 2 years ago and look how reliable its been.
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Old 03-04-2009, 11:20 AM   #30
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Reliable?..ur shits not reliable at all..random jerks in steering when punched..and excessive tire wear..how is that reliable good sir?..(hehe)
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Old 03-04-2009, 12:18 PM   #31
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LOL^^
Thanks you guys, means alot coming from the 2 of you.
Haven't had a chance to get the camera to snap some pics, but I will do it asap. work and side jobs have kept me real busy lately
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Old 03-04-2009, 12:23 PM   #32
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Would the timing even be correct using ls gears?..I mean u change the crank sprocket for tooth spacing and for timing interval changes..so how would using a h23a sprocket and ls gears work out timing wise.
if this was a nonvtec head swap, B16, B18, B20 and H23 gears are all the same. again Mathojie is saying any gears will work.

if its H22 headswapped, then its supposed to be H22 cam gears as the tooth/spacing is diff.

we established this last time mathojie fucked up.
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Old 03-04-2009, 02:38 PM   #33
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^^^where you been hiding? you avoiding me again? lol

i just cant see simply swapping to h23 cam gears, using h23 timing gear, and f22 water pump would work. i mean the h22 is ridiculously taller than h23/f22b heads. the belt would be so stretched if it were an h23 belt with an h22 head. i just cant see it happening.

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Haulass sorry for fucking up ur thread.but I think were all in agreeance that giving wrong info..pisses us off to were we become childish and say silly comments...for that I apologize on behalf of us..just start another thread with good info.. Or have a mod delete or senseless but rightfully pissed off comments
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Old 03-04-2009, 09:36 PM   #36
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hahaha thanks again guys, no bid deal on the comments, I feel better if we steer a newb away from blowing thier motor. But like i said once this is altogether and setup the way i want it with pics I'll get a mod to organize everything.
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Old 03-10-2009, 07:18 PM   #37
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1. how reliable is this swap.
2. any before and after dynos
3. i have a b1 what compression. will i yeild with stock block.
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1. No matter what you do its only as reliable as the person who did it. SO in other words do it right and it will be reliable.
2. Sorry no dyno numbers, Try and search, but you usually don't see too many of these swaps in stock form.
3. Don't know what your asking?? If your just asking will it bump up the compression. That depends on alot of things, mainly the piston design of the bottom end your using. If you want to go all motor setup or somethin or nitrous etc etc. A good mod to do is type-s pistons, won't have to sleeve the block and fairly cheap, oem, reliable setup
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Old 03-11-2009, 06:15 PM   #39
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nice write up. i will be using this very soon as to i am goin to attempt this and doing the setup turbo at the same time. i am going to try and document with as many pics as possible so that i will post them and you guys feel free to edit.


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