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Old 02-10-2020, 06:14 PM   #41
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Whoa baby. This thing is real. *Drooling*

Keep up the good work.
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Old 02-11-2020, 09:03 PM   #42
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I plan on doing it right as I was also told that a linear spring rate was better suited for the wagon considering the rear end would eventually wear out the progressive spring rates of Neuspeed or Eibachs even though I had picked up a set of machined spacers designed specifically for the Koni yellows.
Going back to the suspension for a second, since I'm making the final decision for what I want on mine now, is the linear spring rate only necessary for the rear? The coilovers I'm looking at are progressive up front, which I assume weighs the same as the coupe/sedan, but the rear is a linear 230 lbs/in.
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Old 02-12-2020, 12:35 AM   #43
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Those waffle wheels will look great on that wagon. Good score bro.
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Old 02-12-2020, 08:12 AM   #44
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Going back to the suspension for a second, since I'm making the final decision for what I want on mine now, is the linear spring rate only necessary for the rear? The coilovers I'm looking at are progressive up front, which I assume weighs the same as the coupe/sedan, but the rear is a linear 230 lbs/in.
For me personally? Yeah since I don't want that sagging rear end and I wanted the best combo with the Konis this time around so I am going with the Ground Control combo.

Spoke to a rep from GC about it last year and he recommended 440 for the front and 380 for the rear.

If you decided to go with progressive springs I'd recommend these:



They're spacer rings I picked up on eBay. There's a guy in Quebec who machined these specifically for wagons. Turns out my current suspension has them so if you can't find a set let me know.

And this is how they are suppose to mount..(the cup is upside down) there is a machined inner part that the cup sits on.





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Those waffle wheels will look great on that wagon. Good score bro.
Thanks man, I was ready to pay her for them but I was more surprised at such a kind gesture. She owns a really nice 7th gen too.


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I've also been searching for an exhaust for my car. Two weeks ago I found a RS*R muffler from a junked Integra at a local yard..brought it to work and chopped off the weld off of it only to discover that the innards were destroyed..frayed fiberglass packing and the perforated pipes had broken off.

The donor:


The original weld close up line marked for the cut off line



Side shot of the RS*R



Weld cut off..you can see the inner pipe wasnt secured anymore





Turns out Apexi made a mufflers for the wagons but it was a release in Japan only..testament to how popular these wagons were over there. And through some friends from here I was also told that TAS Auto actually sold them which I never really knew about until a guy on one of the FB pages scored one from an importer in Canada..for an absurdly low price of $89 but they got him on shipping.

Then this morning while searching for an exhaust , I found a Greddy Muffler for a CE1 chassis for about $61.86 but the twist is they get you on shipping which tops out at $451 ..so in the end $512 shipped? I decided to pass on it.

Greddy catback CE1

For that I'd rather snag a full WS2 catback and modify the end for a proper fitment on the wagon.

So next on list a WS2 for the car. I miss owning one and I kicked myself for chopping my old one up and NOT keeping the muffler end (it was still in good shape).
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Old 02-12-2020, 12:18 PM   #45
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For me personally? Yeah since I don't want that sagging rear end and I wanted the best combo with the Konis this time around so I am going with the Ground Control combo.

Spoke to a rep from GC about it last year and he recommended 440 for the front and 380 for the rear.
*Edit: brain-farted there and forgot why I asked the question in the first place... I asked if it's only necessary on the rear, as opposed to needing a linear spring in the front as well.

But me not knowing a whole lot about suspension design, I don't understand why it would matter if the rear itself was progressive or linear, as long as the spring+damper combo overall was rated for the weight. Especially when you consider how many aftermarket options are available for any given car. What kind of use were those recommended specs for, because I'm wanting a smooth ride mixed with performance. I hope my car will see some track use, but I'm not after a hardcore setup. I don't want the car getting unsettled in a curve with a rough surface, since my main playground will be public roads in the mountains. If you don't mind, I'd love to see a review when yours is settle in. GC+Koni yellows were what I was eyeing when I had my sedan but lately, based on reviews on other chassis, I'm looking specifically at KW Variant 2s. They sound well worth the price. People are reporting surprisingly low spring rates, and yet they still handle amazingly while giving a great ride on the street. I guess they put more work into the damping and properly matching it to the spring? Worth checking out...
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Old 02-13-2020, 10:54 AM   #46
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*Edit: brain-farted there and forgot why I asked the question in the first place... I asked if it's only necessary on the rear, as opposed to needing a linear spring in the front as well.

But me not knowing a whole lot about suspension design, I don't understand why it would matter if the rear itself was progressive or linear, as long as the spring+damper combo overall was rated for the weight. Especially when you consider how many aftermarket options are available for any given car. What kind of use were those recommended specs for, because I'm wanting a smooth ride mixed with performance. I hope my car will see some track use, but I'm not after a hardcore setup. I don't want the car getting unsettled in a curve with a rough surface, since my main playground will be public roads in the mountains. If you don't mind, I'd love to see a review when yours is settle in. GC+Koni yellows were what I was eyeing when I had my sedan but lately, based on reviews on other chassis, I'm looking specifically at KW Variant 2s. They sound well worth the price. People are reporting surprisingly low spring rates, and yet they still handle amazingly while giving a great ride on the street. I guess they put more work into the damping and properly matching it to the spring? Worth checking out...
I wanted a combo for mainly street and highway cruising..I don't think it'll see a track event anytime soon though. But if you give them a call the rep was pretty knowledgeable on what he recommended. I believe the higher the spring rate the stiffer the suspension would be and they have the springs off the shelf ready for any application.

Also I used Anthony a.k.a apalileo's car as a reference.

His setup is here he's running a higher rate up front and in the rear.

I did look into KWs but considering I still had a lifetime warranty on these I figured I'd give that combination a shot. The last setup I had on my old sedan was the Koni Yellows with Neuspeed Sport (Green) springs which turned out to be waay to soft near the end of it's life.
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Old 02-13-2020, 12:54 PM   #47
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Thanks for that. It's confusing me that KW's rate would be so low; I'm starting to second guess that... but it's friggin' KW! How could they be like that? haha.
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