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Old 07-22-2019, 07:54 PM   #1
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The C8 Corvette

So what y'all think?

I think it will dominate everything, performance wise. Once the aftermarket gets to it, the supercars are going to have some issues....
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Old 07-22-2019, 08:17 PM   #2
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I'll probably still never want to actually buy one, but I like it. Especially considering the base price, it's pretty incredible. Hasn't Chevy been wanting to make the Corvette mid-engined since the C1? Supercars already have issues with modified 'Vettes, though, haha.
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Old 07-22-2019, 08:46 PM   #3
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I think it's totally badass. While the front doesn't look too "Corvette," I like how they worked the Corvette "look" into the rear glass and C pillars.

Now if only I could afford one! Makes my C5 feel lame, lol!
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Old 07-22-2019, 09:38 PM   #4
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Eh, it's been a while since the Corvette was a serious threat to any of the modern supercars. By that I mean four or five years. But that's an eternity in that upper echelon of cars. The Huracan and GT-R have REALLY changed what attainable performance can be while maintaining daily driveability. Most of that is due to something a lot of us have ignorantly shunned for years, which is the advancement of automatic and automatically-shifted manual transmissions. The ability to remove the entire rear section of the Huracan has also lent to the popularity of some serious twin turbo upgrades. With Hefner and Sheepey running 1000+hp with Motec management that drives to the grocery store, cammed Corvettes have taken a back seat.

That said, the value of these new Corvettes coupled with the ability to get wild with the twin turbo routing should make these things SUPER popular. There was a big GT-R craze for a while after those came out that got people from all different walks of the performance car spectrum interested. I think this will be largely the same.
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Eh, it's been a while since the Corvette was a serious threat to any of the modern supercars. By that I mean four or five years.
C7 Z06? You've got boost to mess with there, it's more than a simple cam job in the aftermarket. Power's nuts, and they're far from Corvettes-of-old around corners.
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Old 07-23-2019, 12:17 AM   #6
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So what y'all think?

I think it will dominate everything, performance wise. Once the aftermarket gets to it, the supercars are going to have some issues....
Apparently, the powertrains are getting pretty locked down on them. I guess the C7 Z06 needs something like $3K just to get into the ECU and really make a go of it.

I fear that such changes (largely as a result of politicians) will continue to get worse.
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Old 07-23-2019, 12:32 AM   #7
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Meh. They were saying that about the R35, too. "Untunable." It's just a computer, it can be hacked.
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Old 07-23-2019, 05:16 AM   #8
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Yeah, there are some *really* smart guys out there. Hacking the car's system isn't unrealistic.

Hell, the C6 Z06 is still a monster in the amateur leagues. Now if the base model C8 can match its performance, for its projected 60k MSRP...
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2020 C8 Corvette Stingray

-Starting MSRP below $60,000 USD!

-6.2L LT2 Engine

-495hp/470ft-lbs

-8 Speed DCT Transmission

-Very aggressive 1st gear for maximum acceleration. 7 and 8 are Overdrive.

-0-60 time of under 3.0s.

-Standard Dry Sump lube system

-Z51 Package includes Front/Rear splitter, open air rear spoiler, additional cooling, shorter gear ratio, ELSD, bigger brake rotors and calipers, PTM modes.

-Interior space is larger than C7.

-12” Digital LED Gauges

-3 Seat Options, GT1 GT2, Competition Sport

-12 Exterior Colours

-Lots of interior colour and stitching options.

-Available in LHD and RHD markets.

-Steering is 50% stiffer than C7

-Center if Gravity is right at drivers seat so vehicle rotates around you.

-Most comfortable and stable Corvette ever made.

-Stiffest Corvette ever made.

-Both front and rear luggage components.

-Rear Luggage compartment holds Targa Room Or 2 Golf bags.

-Driver Modes: Weather, Tour, Sport, Track and Z Mode

-Z Mode is a fully customizable performance set up that you set up.

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-14 Speaker Bose Speaker System

-Front Lift System to raise up to 2”. GPS enables to memorize lift locations.

-Rear camera mounted on roof of car.

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I love it. While I’ll miss the traditional corvette, the Camaro has kinda encroached on the FR performance territory. This was a smart move, and I like the result. The low price is fantastic. The base C8 will be far more car than 99% of its buyers will ever need. Top models will likely break into supercar territory (and price...)

One concern I have is the cost to maintain and repair the C8. Is it going to come with supercar shop bills to go with its supercar looks?
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Probably more expensive than past Corvettes. It has a dry sump system so oil changes might be a little more involved. I am kind of worried about the transmission reliability.
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The engine location likely complicates things a bit as well.
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There is no manual transmission option, for the first time in decades, and that makes me sad.

Also, the current Camaro will be phased out soon (2023), with no new model next in line.
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Am I the only one who thinks it looks ugly? Like they took the front from a lambo and the rear from a miata and installed spoilers and honda grills?

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There is no manual transmission option, for the first time in decades, and that makes me sad.

Also, the current Camaro will be phased out soon (2023), with no new model next in line.
Yeah, no manual is sad. It shows how they’re aiming for the exotics that use the “better” automatics.
I’d be happy with a 12 second manual (1/4 mile) even if I knew the auto version ran 11.7.

I forgot about the Camaro nearing the end of its life. It’ll be weird if Chevy goes without a proper FR sports car!

Although, maybe that leaves room for the revival of an old name... done properly. Chevelle, maybe? Or perhaps Buick will get a long-overdue FR beast.


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Am I the only one who thinks it looks ugly? Like they took the front from a lambo and the rear from a miata and installed spoilers and honda grills?
I’ve heard so many mashups from people!
I see corvette front and rear. Middle is Ferrari-esque, but that’s because the iconic Ferrari look is based on a MR design.
I like it, but I’m going to wait until I see one in person to really have an opinion. I think it’s pretty cool, though. The only other such car we have from a mainstream American automaker costs nearly 10x as much!

I do feel that this is a better evolution of the Corvette than the GTR is of the R32-R34 GTR.


Pointless side note: As I was typing this, I watched Ned Flanders crash a C2.
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Am I the only one who thinks it looks ugly? Like they took the front from a lambo and the rear from a miata and installed spoilers and honda grills?
To me, its seems a little too high off the ground, like it's pulling up its metaphorical skirt in order to avoid getting muddy while walking/running through a mud puddle.



I think this impression mostly comes from the lowest lines on the front and rear sloping inward like a wedge.



If it were another inch higher, I could see rally mud flaps on a rally spec C8.

Now, here is an artist's rendering of a potential Z06 variant:



All the height issues I have are now solved! The front diffuser looks great!
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The cost seems reasonable at a base price for the stingray being shy of $60,000.

Owning a C4 for a short time myself I came to appreciate the Corvette. Not being my type nor my desire to own I find myself appreciating the C8 as well and the drastic design change also.
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I’ve never been much of a corvette fan (well, perhaps when I was 6, and every sporty car was a “corvette” to me...)
However, my friend bought a C5, and I’ve grown to appreciate them more. I wouldn’t mind owning one of each generation, for various reasons. I probably never will, but I do like how capable and accessible the C4 and C5 are. They’re cheap enough to be toys/projects, and their performance potential is fantastic. If only their interiors weren’t so awful!

Also, think of it this way: in 5 years, you’ll be able to get a potent MR corvette for less than an old NSX!
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Meh,

All fast cars look the same to me these days. Is it a Corvette, Ferrari, Lamborghini, NSX, McLaren? (shrugs)

I get that physics, aerodynamics and pedestrian crash heights are setting the design criteria for these cars, but they're all looking SO cookie cutter to me.

The only thing about these that interest me is the price point, simply because I'll actually see them running around most likely.

To the point of the earlier posts about getting into the ECU or not, my bigger concern is proprietary parts failing. The ABS computer on the C5 is a common failure point. The 97-00 cars are non-repairable when they fail due to design. GM will not release how to create a copy and the electronics are no longer available. Thus the only available parts are used units which are prone to the same failures. I'm sure mine will eventually fail.

The worst thing about Corvettes are the owners. I'm sure as time wears on the owner base will change, but they are insufferable. Making the C8 that much more competitive will simply make it worse.
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I wonder if the stereotypical owner will change with this new car. The traditional white new balance and jorts wearing blue collar fella nearing retirement isn’t generally the target buyer for a MR “exotic style” car. Of course, a mainstream MR car under $100,000 that has more than 6 cylinders is fairly new territory.
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