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    CB7 Lowering Spring, Full Coilover, and Damper compilation

    Feel free to post up pictures of different setups. State your spring/shock combo, or coilovers, and tire size IF different from stock overall diameter.
    Also, feel free to discuss about how a given setup rides/handles, just don't get off topic.


    **Rates are in lbs/in...to convert to kg/mm divide by 56 (this is a very close approximation)**

    What are compression(aka bump) and rebound, and what do they mean to me?
    (Taken from a Koni USA SCCA presentation)

    Rebound:
    • Controls "sprung" weight aka the weight of the car held by the suspension
    • Affects transitional control
    • Controls spring and chassis oscillation
    • Balances understeer and oversteer
    • Add rebound to "loosen" an end, remove rebound to "stick" an end


    Compression:
    • Controls "unsprung weight" i.e. wheels, brakes, etc.
    • Holds tire to the ground
    • Increase to improve grip and turn-in
    • Affects ride harshness
    • Generally increase until car begins to "skate"




    LOWERING SPRINGS
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Stock CB7 Springs: 220F, 150R (0.0"F, 0.0"R)

    Neuspeed SofSport: (0.75"F, 0.75"R) rates unknown
    Neuspeed Sport: 260F, 165R (1.75"F, 1.5"R)
    Neuspeed Race: 485F, 300R (2.2"F, 2.0"R)


    Sprint Whatever: (1.5"F, 1.5"R) 25% stiffer than stock
    Sprint Blues: (2.25"F, 2.25"R) 15-20% stiffer than stock
    Sprint Extreme: (3.25"F, 3.0"R) rates unknown


    H&R OE Sport: (0.75"F, 0.75"R) rates unknown
    H&R Sport: (1.75"F, 1.5"R) rates unknown
    H&R Race: 485F, 305R (2.2"F, 2.0"R)

    Eibach Pro Kit: 331F, 228R(progressive rear only) (1.2"F, 1.2"R)
    Eibach Sportline: 331F, 228R(progressive rear only) (1.8"F, 1.7"R)


    Megan Racing: 280F, 250R (2.0"F, 1.75"R)

    Tein H-Tech: 220F, 150R (1.5"F, 1.1"R)
    Tein S-Tech: 250F, 160R (2.1"F, 1.7"R)

    Skunk2: (2.0"F, 1.8"R)

    Tanabe DF210: (2.0"F, 2.0"R) 10-15% stiffer than stock
    Tanabe GF210: (1.2"F, 1.2"R) 20-30% stiffer than stock
    Tanabe NF210: (1.8"F, 1.5"R) 0-5% stiffer than stock


    Tenzo-R: (2.25"F, 2.25"R) rates unknown

    Matrix: (2.5"F, 2.25"R) rates unknown

    Progress Sport: 300F, 185R (2.0"F, 2.0"R)

    Suspension Techniques Sporttech: (1.0"F, 1.0"R) rates unknown
    Suspension Techniques Speedtech: (2.0"F, 1.8"R) rates unknown


    RS*R Down Springs: 285F, 156R (1.6"F, 1.0"R)

    B&G Sport Springs: (1.6"F, 1.6"R) rates unknown

    Dropzone: (2.25"F, 2.25"R) rates unknown

    Maxspeed: (1.75"F, 1.5"R) rates unknown

    Vogtland: (1.6"F, 1.6"R) rates unknown

    Tokico HP: (1.25"F, 1.25"R) rates unknown

    D2 Racing: 236F, 168R (2.25"F, 2.25"R)






    FULL COILOVERS

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Tein Basic: 336F, 280R (3.4"F, 2.6"R) Damping adjustable: No
    Tein SS: 336F, 280R (3.3"F, 2.5"R) Damping adjustable: ?
    Tein SS-P: 336F, 280R (3.3"F, 2.5"R) Damping adjustable: ?


    Function & Form Autolife Type 1: 672F, 336R Damping adjustable: No
    Function & Form Autolife Type 2: 672F, 336R Damping adjustable: Yes


    D2 Racing RS: 678F, 398R Damping adjustable: Yes

    Ksport Kontrol Pro: 560F, 336R Damping adjustable: Yes

    Megan Racing Street Series: 784F, 336R Damping adjustable: Yes
    Megan Racing EZ-Street Series: 672F, 280R Damping adjustable: Yes


    AMR Engineering: Custom made, purpose built; Damping adjustable: Yes

    H&R Street Performance: (2.7"F, 2.0"R) Damping adjustable: No

    KW Variant 2: (2.9"F, 2.1"R) Damping adjustable: Yes

    Blackworks Racing SS: 560F, 336R Damping adjustable: No

    BC Racing: 560F, 336R Damping adjustable: Yes





    DAMPERS
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------


    KYB GR2: Damping adjustable: NO

    KYB AGX: Damping adjustable: YES, 8-way on car

    Tokico HP: Damping adjustable: NO
    Estimated damping force: 235F, 180R


    Tokico Illumina: Damping adjustable: YES, 5-way on car

    Koni STR.T: Damping adjustable: NO
    Front: 670 compression fixed, 3150 rebound fixed
    Rear: 310 compression fixed, 760 rebound fixed


    Koni Red: Damping adjustable: YES, linear valve off-car

    Koni Sport: Damping adjustable: YES, linear valve on-car, rebound only **features 3 height adjustment perches**
    Front: 169 fixed compression, 674 rebound on full soft, approximately 1348 on full stiff
    Rear: 67 fixed compression, 214 rebound on full soft, approximately 428 on full stiff
    **numbers are at a velocity of 4.13inches/second**


    Koni SP3: Damping adjustable: YES, linear valve on-car, rebound only **Same as Koni sport(yellow) but with 5 ride height perches and 20mm shorter droop length**
    Damping is same as regular Koni sports above.


    Bilstein HD: Damping adjustability: NO
    Front: 440 fixed compression, 650 rebound
    Rear: 995 fixed compression, 740 rebound



    Interesting links/food for thought:

    http://www.koni-na.com/presentations/SCCA/
    http://www.koni-na.com/presentations/mustang/
    http://www.koni-na.com/presentations/civic/
    http://farnorthracing.com/autocross_secrets.html
    Last edited by mndude07; 02-06-2012, 07:53 PM. Reason: Added coilovers to the list
    There are no black and white suspension answers!!!!!!!!!!!

    #2
    I will contribute too. Pics to follow...

    KYB AGX with Neuspeed Sport springs:


    Koni Yellow with Skunk2 springs:

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      #3
      D2 Racing Lowering springs: 2.5"F/2.25"R

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        #4
        Ksport springs: 2.25F/2.25R
        I <3 G60.

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          #5
          Eibach Sportlines are 400/250 from what I remember.



          ^^^Neuspeed Sport + Koni Yellow SP3s.


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            #6
            MNDude! great thread...

            Any chance we can add some coilovers to this list?

            Tein Basic, SS, and SS-P coilovers: 336f/280r (Max drop SS: 3.3f/2.5r | Max drop Basic: 3.4f/2.6r)


            I'm curious on the different Form and Functions.
            Last edited by ilovemycb7; 09-10-2009, 06:59 PM.
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              #7
              Skunk2 springs and Skunk2 shocks:



              Neuspeed Race on stock shocks:



              Sprint Extreme springs on Tokico Blue shocks:


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                #8
                Just got off the phone with Eibach:

                Fronts are constant and rears are progressive so:

                Prokit: 331front / 86-228rear
                Sportline: 331front / 60-228rear

                Sportline is just a shorter spring set.
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                  #9
                  Updated!

                  Now taking submissions for FULL coilovers...Just make sure your info is correct. I'd rather not have to change it later. I'm going to list by spring rates, damping adjustment(yes/no), and minimum ride height(how low they can go). No other info is needed.
                  Last edited by mndude07; 11-23-2009, 02:55 AM.
                  There are no black and white suspension answers!!!!!!!!!!!

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                    #10
                    RS*R Down Springs for 94-97 Accord (-1.6 rear, -1.8 front) with Koni STR.T struts
                    90 ACCORD EX..<-- MR thread

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                      #11
                      Neuspeed Race springs (2.2"F, 2.0"R) with koni yellow SP3 shocks on the lowest perch....aka as low as the neuspeed super cup kit can go.

                      There are no black and white suspension answers!!!!!!!!!!!

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by xaaronx
                        i love it, nothing to complain about whatsoever. from what i've read about the STR.Ts (but not confirmed i guess) is that they're basically the yellows (sports) on their softest setting. they're great for a DD. ~$300 for a full set!
                        I have yellows on my car. If they ride like them on full soft then yeah, that would be great for DD as long as your spring rates aren't too high. I need my fronts turned up about half way or maybe a little more to damping my race springs. Those are 485lbs though lol
                        There are no black and white suspension answers!!!!!!!!!!!

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                            Mods can not sticky a thread, unless we are told about it.

                            By chance, I ran into this today and I feel it is sticky worthy. Done.

                            Keep it informational. I cleaned up repetition.
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                              Originally posted by HondaFan81 View Post
                              Mods can not sticky a thread, unless we are told about it.

                              By chance, I ran into this today and I feel it is sticky worthy. Done.

                              Keep it informational. I cleaned up repetition.
                              Thanks Cisco! I thought Aero was the moderator for suspension, so I PM'd him awhile back, but he seems to be pretty much inactive.
                              There are no black and white suspension answers!!!!!!!!!!!

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