Hi all,
A few weeks ago when backing out of my garage, I noticed that the motion in reverse seemed a little jerky with a springy quality, the same way a cvt sometimes feels. Throttle response seemed a little choppy (under 1000 rpm), fine over 1200rpm. There really wasn't the same feeling when shifting to D3 and driving away. Driving at low and high speeds did not make the car act out of normal. Throttle and shift feel were normal.
Every time I drive the car and reverse, the same things happen.
A few days later I drove about 20 minutes on the freeway and the car felt fine, as I was pulling into the garage, the idle dropped below 1000 rpm and started to feel very rough. I put the transmission into N and the idle remained very lumpy below 1200 rpm. P also had the same result. Lots of vibration! Turning on AC made the car shudder more. Not a normal low rpm shudder, but a pretty strong one. I opened the hood and could see the whole engine visibly shaking with a metallic like clunking that was pronounced.
Shutting the car off and restarting didn't change anything, it remained the same.
Could this be a transmission issue or misfire issue?
I have an emissions test in early August (now postponed...), so I made an appointment for Honda in 2 weeks after I returned from a vacation.
When I returned, the same issues were still present while reversing.
At Honda, they could not reproduce the problem or sound even though they kept the car for 4 days. I was told to pick up the car because there was little point to keeping it.
When the car was delivered to me, I was able to have it act up at the dealership. The vibration and loud metallic clanking were quite noticeable, so we opened the hood. A tech walking by listened and told my service adviser that the sound was coming from the transmission. I heard it myself as well.
At that point the adviser changed his story and said yep, you definitely have transmission issues. Can it be further diagnosed then I asked? No, your car is 22 years old, has 222,xxx miles on it, that's reason enough that it can fail. We don't rebuild them, so you'll need to replace the whole thing. Ok fine I said, what's the cost? He replied he would have to get back to me.
I asked what is the reason for the rough low rpm response? The adviser said it is possible the transmission is not unlinking completely and that could be the reason for the loud (albeit intermittent) clunking.
A few hours later I get a voicemail from him saying that there are no more remanufactured units available from Honda, so he talked with the service manager and was told that there is still a tech that works there that used to rebuild transmissions. Go ahead and bring it back in, he said.
I took the car back the next day, and got a different adviser. Had to explain basically everything again. For whatever reason whoever writes up the car gets the case.
The car had been in for a week, and it will not rattle underhood anymore, the rpm issue is apparent to me, but I guess because I am so familiar with it, I can tell that it is not quite normal. I took the car for a drive with the service manager but it would not act up. The only consistent thing is the surging transmission when placed in R. Rpms will stay steady when the car is in R and the car surges. To me I think that points to a transmission problem.
Honda suspects the engine mounts. I don't know since I replaced them two years ago.
Transmission fluid appears clear and the level is normal. The transmission is not throwing any codes, nor is there any CEL present. Distributor is normal, fuel is fine as I have refueled in the day that I had the car back. Valves were also adjusted 2 years ago, and are not due yet.
The transmission is being flushed out and checked for particulates right now.
The new adviser states that they do not want to tear into the transmission until they have concrete evidence that the problem is inside there (AKA clunking returns for them).
Been without my car for 2 weeks, what could it be that is causing this? Is there enough cause to crack open the trans, say even if the fluid has nothing in it?
Thanks for reading!
Edit: Here are some videos
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sw0kmol468...711_212421.mp4
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvypq78bhr...711_212530.mp4
https://www.dropbox.com/s/06lw8y7qoi...711_212637.mp4
A few weeks ago when backing out of my garage, I noticed that the motion in reverse seemed a little jerky with a springy quality, the same way a cvt sometimes feels. Throttle response seemed a little choppy (under 1000 rpm), fine over 1200rpm. There really wasn't the same feeling when shifting to D3 and driving away. Driving at low and high speeds did not make the car act out of normal. Throttle and shift feel were normal.
Every time I drive the car and reverse, the same things happen.
A few days later I drove about 20 minutes on the freeway and the car felt fine, as I was pulling into the garage, the idle dropped below 1000 rpm and started to feel very rough. I put the transmission into N and the idle remained very lumpy below 1200 rpm. P also had the same result. Lots of vibration! Turning on AC made the car shudder more. Not a normal low rpm shudder, but a pretty strong one. I opened the hood and could see the whole engine visibly shaking with a metallic like clunking that was pronounced.
Shutting the car off and restarting didn't change anything, it remained the same.
Could this be a transmission issue or misfire issue?
I have an emissions test in early August (now postponed...), so I made an appointment for Honda in 2 weeks after I returned from a vacation.
When I returned, the same issues were still present while reversing.
At Honda, they could not reproduce the problem or sound even though they kept the car for 4 days. I was told to pick up the car because there was little point to keeping it.
When the car was delivered to me, I was able to have it act up at the dealership. The vibration and loud metallic clanking were quite noticeable, so we opened the hood. A tech walking by listened and told my service adviser that the sound was coming from the transmission. I heard it myself as well.
At that point the adviser changed his story and said yep, you definitely have transmission issues. Can it be further diagnosed then I asked? No, your car is 22 years old, has 222,xxx miles on it, that's reason enough that it can fail. We don't rebuild them, so you'll need to replace the whole thing. Ok fine I said, what's the cost? He replied he would have to get back to me.
I asked what is the reason for the rough low rpm response? The adviser said it is possible the transmission is not unlinking completely and that could be the reason for the loud (albeit intermittent) clunking.
A few hours later I get a voicemail from him saying that there are no more remanufactured units available from Honda, so he talked with the service manager and was told that there is still a tech that works there that used to rebuild transmissions. Go ahead and bring it back in, he said.
I took the car back the next day, and got a different adviser. Had to explain basically everything again. For whatever reason whoever writes up the car gets the case.
The car had been in for a week, and it will not rattle underhood anymore, the rpm issue is apparent to me, but I guess because I am so familiar with it, I can tell that it is not quite normal. I took the car for a drive with the service manager but it would not act up. The only consistent thing is the surging transmission when placed in R. Rpms will stay steady when the car is in R and the car surges. To me I think that points to a transmission problem.
Honda suspects the engine mounts. I don't know since I replaced them two years ago.
Transmission fluid appears clear and the level is normal. The transmission is not throwing any codes, nor is there any CEL present. Distributor is normal, fuel is fine as I have refueled in the day that I had the car back. Valves were also adjusted 2 years ago, and are not due yet.
The transmission is being flushed out and checked for particulates right now.
The new adviser states that they do not want to tear into the transmission until they have concrete evidence that the problem is inside there (AKA clunking returns for them).
Been without my car for 2 weeks, what could it be that is causing this? Is there enough cause to crack open the trans, say even if the fluid has nothing in it?
Thanks for reading!
Edit: Here are some videos
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sw0kmol468...711_212421.mp4
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvypq78bhr...711_212530.mp4
https://www.dropbox.com/s/06lw8y7qoi...711_212637.mp4
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