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Old 11-21-2017, 09:58 AM   #121
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Two weeks or so to our next race. This time at Sonoma (Sears Point to me). We've moved the battery and replaced the cuttoff switch with one that won't damage the alternator. We replaced the steering and the big frame piece that carries the steering rack and the rear motor mount etc. We just got new much smaller diameter tires for lower final drive. They look different than the current fashion but should make us faster. We got a new driver who has been helping with the wrenching a bit.

I'm hoping we can break out of the 50th place range.

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This will be the last ride as the Minnow. We are changing our theme for the next race. Unless someone beats us to it this race it should be something from universe C137.
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Old 11-27-2017, 04:30 PM   #122
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Looks awesome, what size tires/wheels you running? What brand?

I love the Hankook RS4's 225/45-15 on 15x8's. They seem perfect for the CB7

I've signed up for Lucky Dog at Laguna Seca on July 13-14, did you sign up for that race? It's sold out now, I hope you did I only have 2 drivers for sure right now, but I'm hoping to get 2 more to confirm.
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Old 11-29-2017, 11:36 PM   #123
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Looks awesome, what size tires/wheels you running? What brand?

I love the Hankook RS4's 225/45-15 on 15x8's. They seem perfect for the CB7

I've signed up for Lucky Dog at Laguna Seca on July 13-14, did you sign up for that race? It's sold out now, I hope you did I only have 2 drivers for sure right now, but I'm hoping to get 2 more to confirm.
I did not sign up for Laguna Seca

The tires are the Falkens in size 205-40-16. We've never tried the Hankooks.
We started with 225-45-17s for several races. Then we down sized to 205-50-16. The smaller wheels and tires made a big difference. Love that reduced rotational weight. These tires are about 1.5" smaller diameter. These tires will give us a 9% lower final drive ratio compared to our last race and the unspring/rotational weight will be even lower. Yeeha!

There is another cb7 accord racing in NorCal lemons. They call it the Accordion. Depsite being nearly stock f22a1 they are suprisingly quick. I think they drive long stints. I noticed they are running tiny wheels/tires. I know it is conterintuitive but you don't need huge tires to get great grip.

We can't fit 15" wheels on it anymore. They don't clear our Acura CL brakes. Which reminds me, I have four steelies with road tires with good tread left. Free to anyone who will come take them away.
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Old 12-03-2017, 07:37 PM   #124
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Unhappy

The race did not go well at all. After 7 laps the left axle pulled out of the inner cv joint. We fixed it and got it back on the track sunday morning and the same thing happened again.

I believe the frame is more bent that I thought and it causes the left axle to have to reach too far. We're looking for someone who can straighten the frame. If that fails we'll be looking for another accord. EX this time.
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M2A4 Trans, Cusco 1-way Limited Slip Differential, Stage 2 Clutch and 11lb flywheel.
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Old 12-03-2017, 08:19 PM   #125
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I only have 2 drivers for sure right now, but I'm hoping to get 2 more to confirm.
If you need another driver, I could be talked into it.
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M2A4 Trans, Cusco 1-way Limited Slip Differential, Stage 2 Clutch and 11lb flywheel.
A4 Header, 2" exhaust all the way back, catalyst delete, glasspack muffler, PT12 ECU.
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Old 12-05-2017, 12:54 PM   #126
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If you need another driver, I could be talked into it.
I will keep you in mind! We have 3 right now, still trying to get confirmation for the 4th

As for the frame, I had my frame straightened by a local frame shop here in San Diego and he did a great job. They used to do these Accrords all the time 10-20 years ago so they have experience. He said the front frame horns are really weak and always bend in any kind of hit. They kind of hang out in front of the subframe with no support and they dont hold up.

We hit the front corner of the car and that bent a wheel and shifted the whole front over. They were able to put it on the rack and straighten it. It feels perfect now and we can get good, even alignment.
I dont recall what caused your damage though.



Maybe call around to some frame shops that have been around for a long time and they should have experience with these cars.

It will cost about $1000 though..
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Old 12-06-2017, 12:07 AM   #127
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I will keep you in mind! We have 3 right now, still trying to get confirmation for the 4th

As for the frame, I had my frame straightened by a local frame shop here in San Diego and he did a great job. They used to do these Accrords all the time 10-20 years ago so they have experience. He said the front frame horns are really weak and always bend in any kind of hit. They kind of hang out in front of the subframe with no support and they dont hold up.

We hit the front corner of the car and that bent a wheel and shifted the whole front over. They were able to put it on the rack and straighten it. It feels perfect now and we can get good, even alignment.
I dont recall what caused your damage though.



Maybe call around to some frame shops that have been around for a long time and they should have experience with these cars.

It will cost about $1000 though..
I canvassed the paddocks before we left Sunday and got a few recommends for local lemons friendly frame shops.

This is what bent us up:
https://youtu.be/hQ28C9P_Sjg?t=2m12s
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Adj Upper Control Arms -3.0deg front, -2.0 deg rear
M2A4 Trans, Cusco 1-way Limited Slip Differential, Stage 2 Clutch and 11lb flywheel.
A4 Header, 2" exhaust all the way back, catalyst delete, glasspack muffler, PT12 ECU.
Acura CL3.0 Brakes Front and Rear, Raybestos St43 Pads, Redline 600 Brake Fluid
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Old 01-07-2018, 11:19 PM   #128
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Does anyone know if there is a difference between the rear cross members in an AT car and a MT?

EDIT: nevermind, I already asked the same question elsewhere and got useful answers.
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M2A4 Trans, Cusco 1-way Limited Slip Differential, Stage 2 Clutch and 11lb flywheel.
A4 Header, 2" exhaust all the way back, catalyst delete, glasspack muffler, PT12 ECU.
Acura CL3.0 Brakes Front and Rear, Raybestos St43 Pads, Redline 600 Brake Fluid

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Old 03-21-2018, 02:31 AM   #129
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If you need another driver, I could be talked into it.
That actually might work out
Send me an email at aventari@gmail.com
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Old 04-22-2018, 01:08 PM   #130
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A Brand New Car!

We gave up on the Minnow. We found a local car that has already been stripped and caged. We hope the cage is up to Lemons specs, or it was in 2012. It is an 1993 LX in that bluegreen color, it has about 170,000 on it. The motor seems pretty tight, unlike our motor in the Minnow. The previous owner kept it registered and street legal. So when the team showed up to buy it last sunday, I ended up driving it from Pleasant Hill to its new home in Berkeley.

https://picknpullracing.files.wordpr...140431_hdr.jpg (the image was too big to embed and I don't have time to upload a smaller one)

We haven't settled on a theme yet. We've pretty much decided that we aren't going to make the May Thunderhill race, which is a shame. They are racing on the full 5 mile course, and it is sooooo much fun.

Yesterday Jason, Tedd, and I swapped the entire front end out from the Minnow into the new car, and the front end from the new car into the Minnow. That included the shocks, springs, adjustable upper control arms, knuckles, and brakes. Next week Tedd, hopefully Dennis, and I are going to try to swap the whole rear ends. We'll swap the exhausts at the same time since you have to drop the catback to remove the rear-subframe anyway.

After that we plan to pull the engine and transmission from the minnow, and everything else useful from the Minnow before getting rid of it. This could even give us the opportunity to rebuild the old engine, without being in a hurry. It would be great if we could get our low geared LSD transmission in the new car before our first race.

We are not really sure how to get rid of the carcass of the old. But we are very excited about having a straight new chassis.
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M2A4 Trans, Cusco 1-way Limited Slip Differential, Stage 2 Clutch and 11lb flywheel.
A4 Header, 2" exhaust all the way back, catalyst delete, glasspack muffler, PT12 ECU.
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Old 04-27-2018, 02:14 PM   #131
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Your new car looks identical to my car when we started in 2010. Same color and everything

Good luck with it, keep us updated!

You should keep the Minnow around for body parts and such. Crapcan racing can be pretty ruthless sometimes. At least keep the bumpers , fenders, hood, doors, trunk and cut out the quarter panels.
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Old 04-29-2018, 01:03 PM   #132
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Your new car looks identical to my car when we started in 2010. Same color and everything

Good luck with it, keep us updated!

You should keep the Minnow around for body parts and such. Crapcan racing can be pretty ruthless sometimes. At least keep the bumpers , fenders, hood, doors, trunk and cut out the quarter panels.

I noticed that too after you posted your last update. Honestly we are not trying to copy you.

We are in the process of swapping all our good parts over. We did the front knuckles and brakes last weekend. Today we are going to the rear end from the subframe out.

Tedd, wants and needs the Minnow gone, sooner rather than later, because his driveway just isn't big enough for an extra car, and I get that. We are definitely taking the engine and trans out of the minnow. I'm going to clear some space in my storage unit for the extra motor. I'll think about keeping some fenders and other body parts.
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M2A4 Trans, Cusco 1-way Limited Slip Differential, Stage 2 Clutch and 11lb flywheel.
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Old 05-28-2018, 08:09 PM   #133
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The Minnow has been stipped clean.

We've finished stripping the Minnow. We got our trick transmission last weekend, and the motor this weekend. This is Tedd and Dennis with the old faithful motor from the Minnow.



It's kind of sad to see our car stripped clean




I've spent hours sorting out the wiring mess left by the previous owner. He did a great job of pruning the wiring harness of things that were not wanted, but what was left was a bit of a mess. While I was at it I relocated the battery inside the car. Dennis is making us a switch panel for the power cutoff and the starter button based on this cardboard mock-up.



Then once the switch arrives I can finish wiring it up. Then it will be time to install the clutch and transmission in the new car.


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M2A4 Trans, Cusco 1-way Limited Slip Differential, Stage 2 Clutch and 11lb flywheel.
A4 Header, 2" exhaust all the way back, catalyst delete, glasspack muffler, PT12 ECU.
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Old 06-10-2018, 03:45 AM   #134
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Great stuff!

I really wish we had pruned our wiring harness. It seems really difficult. How did you do it?
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Old 06-14-2018, 02:13 AM   #135
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Great stuff!

I really wish we had pruned our wiring harness. It seems really difficult. How did you do it?
The previous owner did most of it, and did a nice job of it. But he did leave some messes behind. I don't think they thought about where the wires would run before the cage got welded in. And he decided he wanted to save the adjustable power mirrors. So there was a rat's nest of wires just for that funciton. I got rid of most of that mess. I spent lots of time looking at wires, is this the yellow wire with the green stripes or the yellow wire with the gray stripes? My multi meter is my friend when cleaning up that sort of mess.
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Old 06-20-2018, 09:56 AM   #136
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Aventari has been lots more busy with his race car than I have with ours.



Last weekend I finished up all the wiring. Dennis made a little panel to mount the cutoff switch and the pushbutton starter. I had to puzzle out the back of the old key ignition switch. I couldn't find a diagram in my shop manual pdf on my phone. The black wire with the white stripe was the starter wire. I decided to keep the ignition switch and hid it under the "dash" so we can turn it off as a theft deterrent (or maybe it was just easier to stuff it under there than it was to cut it off and connect all the wires, because I can't imagine someone trying to steal it.

The moment of truth came when I tried to start it. Nothing happened. That didn't surprise me at all. The chances that I had gotten everything right seemed pretty small. After puzzling over it for a while, it occured to me that I might want to try it with the clutch pedal depressed. That did the trick. It started right up! Yay!

Tedd finished re-mounting the seat, so he and Dennis fit in it. It's perfect.

The tranny is the next big step. My lower back is telling me I'd better get my team mates to do the heavy lifting.
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Old 06-22-2018, 02:09 AM   #137
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Aventari has been lots more busy with his race car than I have with ours.
Only because I have a race in 3 weeks


I recommend you remove the clutch safety switch and short the wires together. If it ever fails or one of your drivers forgets about, you could have a really annoying troubleshooting session in the middle of a race when everything is happening at once and you forget about the switch!


What seat are you running? Do you have a seat-back brace?
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Old 06-23-2018, 12:54 PM   #138
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That's probably a good idea to bypass the clutch switch. We had to fix and then replace the brake light switch during a race once. That was annoying.

We have a Corbeau that came with the new car, I don't know what model. It is not a halo seat though. It is nicer than the blue one that was in the Minnow. Once we confirmed that each of our team's fattest asses (Mine and Dennis') fit in it, Tedd took on the re-mount project. The seat was on a slider that made it a few inches higher that it needs to be, and it put you in an upright position like a bus driver. We got that out and he re-used the bracket we made for the other car, with new holes, to bolt it down. He added some rake and the back now touches the bar behind the seat, so no need for a seat back brace. I tested it out last weekend and I loved the seating position. We are planning to enter the Buttonwillow race in August.

This year I'm going to try harder to get registered for Lucky Dog's Laguna Seca race. Racing there has been a fantasy since I was about 15.

Does anyone know if there is a difference between the Oxygen sensor in the f22a1 cars and the f22a6 cars? Ours is an f22a1 with and f22a4 header and downpipe and I need a new one.
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Adj Upper Control Arms -3.0deg front, -2.0 deg rear
M2A4 Trans, Cusco 1-way Limited Slip Differential, Stage 2 Clutch and 11lb flywheel.
A4 Header, 2" exhaust all the way back, catalyst delete, glasspack muffler, PT12 ECU.
Acura CL3.0 Brakes Front and Rear, Raybestos St43 Pads, Redline 600 Brake Fluid

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Old 07-05-2018, 07:41 PM   #139
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Out with the old...


In with the new? in with the other old? uh... In with the better!


The trans that was in there was a normal accord trans. The clutch was slipping and stinking up the world whenever we drove it. Now we have our M2A4 (which has a lower final drive and closer ratios than the accord transaxle) and it also has a Cusco clutch type LSD!
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M2A4 Trans, Cusco 1-way Limited Slip Differential, Stage 2 Clutch and 11lb flywheel.
A4 Header, 2" exhaust all the way back, catalyst delete, glasspack muffler, PT12 ECU.
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Old 07-06-2018, 01:30 PM   #140
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That transmission is going to make a world of difference!

Cusco is the only manufacturer that makes an aftermarket LSD for my eventual application, and it is also a clutch type 1.5-way. I'm anxious to hear how yours works out.
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