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Old 01-20-2015, 02:21 AM   #81
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I have never seen that before. Might be a deal like Mitsuba vs Denso starters.
So I figured out what the wire was.. It's the original alternator wire, which isn't used anymore as the the alternator B+ post is connected directly to the kill switch. This is a rule of Lemons racing that the kill switch has to cut the alternator power completely.

So the previous owners had repurposed the original alternator power wire for an extra ground wire.
Works for me.
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Old 01-20-2015, 02:29 AM   #82
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Worked on the car all day, but progress was slow. The main thing I did was mount an old BMW seat in the passenger side so I can take other people in the car during track days.

I went to the local metal supply store and bought a bunch of scrap metal for 59 cents a pound.
I made a custom mount out of 1/8" bar stock and 1"x1" square tubing, it came out really nice, it just took was longer than I was planning. Probably 4 hours or so. Lots of welding and cutting and drilling and grinding. Fun stuff though

The seat is ugly as hell I know but it works and it was free.
I still need to weld in a BMW 3 point seat belt before it can actually be used. My friend is giving me an old OEM seat belt to use--for free of course.






Also installed the motor mounts I filled with polyurethane



and fabricated a battery hold down out of some threaded rod and a piece of scrap steel.
I have no idea what happened to the original hold-down.

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Old 01-22-2015, 01:21 PM   #83
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Love this car. Super cool seeing people do stuff like this. Would be awesome to do something like this.
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Old 01-23-2015, 10:30 PM   #84
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Just took some time to browse through the thread, really cool what your doing with the car. Forgive me if it was mentioned at all but do you have a weight of the car completely stripped like that? Good luck with it in the future.
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Old 01-27-2015, 05:56 PM   #85
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Haven't actually weighed it yet. I'd be really curious myself. I'm guessing it's around 2500-2600 lbs? What's a stock 93 DX sedan weigh?


So I took it to get aligned today, I asked for 2.5 degrees up front and 2 in the rear and 0 toe.

The front was fine, but the car was hit in the drivers rear at the last race before I got it and it looks like it's a bit bent up. Not sure if it's the subframe bent or the unibody shifted, but there's too much camber on the passenger side and zero camber on the drivers.

I'm probably going to cut and shorten and reweld the drivers rear upper control arm to get 2 degrees of camber, and use washers on the passenger side to get a bit of positive and get it out to 2 degrees.

If I don't want to deal with cutting and welding the control arm, are these adjustable arms any good?

http://www.protuninglab.com/90-97-ho...id=56128534817

or should I not waste my time?



Another question: is it more likely that the rear subframe bent and I can just replace it, or is it likely the whole frame is shifted in the rear?
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Old 01-30-2015, 03:07 PM   #86
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As it's a racecar(and a LeMon), I'd just consider it a disposable expense and treat it like brake pads, inspecting frequently. I know those cheap ones don't hold up on street cars. Keep it on the track and the paint clean and you might be able to make them last.
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Old 01-30-2015, 03:18 PM   #87
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Haven't actually weighed it yet. I'd be really curious myself. I'm guessing it's around 2500-2600 lbs? What's a stock 93 DX sedan weigh?


So I took it to get aligned today, I asked for 2.5 degrees up front and 2 in the rear and 0 toe.

The front was fine, but the car was hit in the drivers rear at the last race before I got it and it looks like it's a bit bent up. Not sure if it's the subframe bent or the unibody shifted, but there's too much camber on the passenger side and zero camber on the drivers.

I'm probably going to cut and shorten and reweld the drivers rear upper control arm to get 2 degrees of camber, and use washers on the passenger side to get a bit of positive and get it out to 2 degrees.

If I don't want to deal with cutting and welding the control arm, are these adjustable arms any good?

http://www.protuninglab.com/90-97-ho...id=56128534817

or should I not waste my time?



Another question: is it more likely that the rear subframe bent and I can just replace it, or is it likely the whole frame is shifted in the rear?
No idea on the quality of those but if something is bent then you could at least correct the camber with them.
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Old 02-13-2015, 03:22 AM   #88
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Old 06-09-2015, 02:34 AM   #89
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I haven't been updating the thread because I haven't had too much free time. Been working on the car every spare moment.

My first race as team captain is in 2 weeks at Buttonwillow and the car is nearly ready.

The new theme for the car is TAKATA R&D (Recall And Defects)--as in the 25 million airbags they're recalling.

Just finished painting the car on the side of my house












Done a ton of work to the motor and suspension

Here I relocated the battery and used a snowmobile battery to save weight. I ran some old 4 gauge amp wiring to the starter and welded a bolt to the cage for a ground.


It's an CB7 LX so it came with the F22A1. I removed the stock exhaust and intake manifolds and added a A6 intake manifold, (and installed oil pressure, oil temp and coolant temp gauges and senders while everything was apart. I also added a used $30 ebay header and test pipe.

The motor has 6 or 8 races on it and 250k miles so I dropped the oil pan and installed new std rod bearings (old ones looked great) and plastigauged the main bearings (all in spec). I also welded a small baffle to the oil pan.



Also grabbed a 16mm rear sway bar from a 2.3CL in the junkyard, and then I PASSED SMOG. I registered the car last week and I'm going to start driving it to work this week


Next is an alignment with the civic ebay adjustable upper front control arms, I'm shooting for 3 degrees of camber front and 1 at the rear.

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Old 06-09-2015, 03:04 AM   #90
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How much time invested and what's a rough figure financially for the paint/body work start to finish?
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Old 06-09-2015, 05:00 PM   #91
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How much time invested and what's a rough figure financially for the paint/body work start to finish?
We did a super quick and shitty job with the paint, as you can see we didn't even fix the body damage

It took me and my teammate about the whole weekend. So 8 hours a day x2 of us, probably 32 hours.

For the paint, we used a quart of decent single-stage acyrlic enamel
http://www.tcpglobal.com/RSPAE2902-K...l#.VXdTBs9VhBc

That was $60 and we used this for the white
http://www.pepboys.com/product/details/9624643/00810
$25 and a quart of this in clear $25

and some primer we had paying around

So $110 in paint + masking tape, paper, mixing sticks/strainers, etc

If you buy some cheap primer, figure $150 for everything


But most of the paintjob is about the prep, so if you want it to look good, figure at least spending three times that amount of time in sanding and fixing dents and cleaning.

Plus I shot it outside and there's tons of bugs and dirt in the paint. You'll want to rent a paint booth or build your own.
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Old 06-09-2015, 07:23 PM   #92
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I was admiring it. I like the colors too, oddly enough. Never thought of those two colors together much less on a CB7.

That's really neat how you did it on the cheap. Imo it looks pretty good! Definitely good enough for a racecar.
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Old 06-09-2015, 08:48 PM   #93
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Thanks, this is the inspiration

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Old 06-09-2015, 09:13 PM   #94
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That's funny because when ever I seen your thread here originally I had a similar idea if I were ever to build a CB7 for the track.

Not that I like Spoon or whatever they even do (I really don't know) I just love that paint scheme.

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Old 06-09-2015, 09:45 PM   #95
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Nice! You should totally do it

Actually my favourite Honda livery has always been Realtime racing



But the Takata thing is our joke Lemons theme
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Saw a Realtime TSX at the track last week. It was sweet...
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Old 06-24-2015, 06:38 PM   #97
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Race was last weekend and I'm happy to say we finished but not without a lot of incidents! The car did great, the drivers as much


There were 112 cars in the race and we got 60th place. Just about in the middle.
There are 3 classes, A/B/C. A is for BMW 3-seiries, Miatas, etc. B is for Accords, Escorts, Jettas, etc. C is for Ramblers, Pruises, 20 hp Fiats, etc
Since an Accord is not a vaunted sports car we got classified in class B with 0 penalty laps.

I have been busting ass working on the car almost non stop for 2 weeks. All weekend, 12 hours a day and every night after work for hours. Finally got it finished and ready Friday night at the track with last minute stuff. Installing radios, gopros, roll bar padding, etc

Friday we teched the car and they busted our balls about the H&R springs and Bilstein shocks, but still gave us class B

Right now it's a F22A1 with 250k miles, an Ebay header, PT6 ECU, F22A6 intake, test pipe and cherry bomb.

Suspension is H&R race, Bilstein shocks, stock front bar with urethane bushings and 16mm CL rear bar with urethane bushings. 3.5 degrees camber up front with Civic adjustable ebay control arms and 0 and 1 degree in the rear. 15x8 XXR +20 wheels and 225/45-15 Hankook RS3s.

Here's me happy after tech


and the team


First day was Saturday with 9 hours of racing.

Ready to race!




We drive in 1.5 hour stints in the car, my friend went first and got a black flag, and I went second and got another black flag when I went into the dirt trying to avoid a car that suddenly and unexpectedly braked in front of me in a 100 mph corner
My punishment was being strapped to the roof and driven aroudn the pits telling everyone how horrible I am


another team got the same penalty lol


My Dad went out next and spun off track when another car spun in front of him. HE went in the dirt and so much dirt got thrown up in the engine bay that it got into the timing belt and slipping timing at least 40 degrees or so
Luckily we were able to re-time the cam and the valves were fine! I couldnt' believe it.

Unfortuneatly the NEXT stint, nearing the end of Saturday, my brother go into a wreck with an E30 BMW and t-boned him and went off track.
Car got smashed

Wheel broke and tire holed



That ended Saturday racing, so we got to work on the car. The hood and bumper were smashed, the radiator cracked, the suspension bent and a wheel broke.
We pulled out the body damage and got a new radiator from O-Reilly. Another team (Pussy Wagon) we happening to give away 6 wheels and tires with 4x114.3 bolt patten! Good tires too! Amazing luck
So we fixed it that night but the car wouldnt start.
It turns out MORE dirt got in the cam belt and it slipped again. We retimed it and the valves were still fine. Amazing!
We went back on track Sunday. We took it way easier on Sunday and had no crashes or black flags the rest of the weekend.


Halfway through the day, the muffler fell off. Here's the video..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9G2qXtUo50

My dad is an awesome welder, so we borrowed another team's welder and cut up a spare muffler I brought and made it a side-exit straight-pipe.


And we went out back again.


I was up next and here's some video of that run. Skip to 3:17 to see the smoke show. That was scary as fuck driving totally blind at high speed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErM46I7Epfg

Then we finished 60th place! 19th in Class B and our top lap time was a 2:15.230, 25th fastest overall and FASTEST CLASS B CAR wooo! I set that time on the 68th lap.


The winner here was the BLowes Eclipse with 349 laps. The 2nd place team was a tubro Miata (Eyesore racing) with 349 lapos completed but 3 minutes and 3 seconds behind BLowes. (We had 232 laps completed)
Lots of cars needed to be pushed off track at the end lol


Then on the drive home up the Grapevine, my trucks alternator died. Brand new alternator from Pep Boys I might add..... I limped it to O'Reielly and swapped a new one in the parking lot.


Then I got home tired as fuck and my teammate Benino helped me unload.



Great adventure and great fun. I hope to do another race this year. The CB7 is fast as hell and when I put a F22A6 cam and a few more things I hope to be a bit faster

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Old 06-24-2015, 10:13 PM   #98
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Very impressive for what is almost a stock F22A. Sounds like you had a lot of fun.
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Old 06-24-2015, 10:30 PM   #99
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aventari, ah man... I hate to see it smashed up like that.

But, it's cool as hell to see you guys get it driveable again then take it out and thrash on it some more.
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Old 06-25-2015, 09:47 AM   #100
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That looked like so much fun! Thanks for sharing the videos and pictures. I was laughing my ass off at all the car designs. One looked like an f-14 and another a shark. Did the track make you do that penalty of being strapped to the roof? If so that sounds like a fun day!
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