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    xxr 530s need extended studs?

    I have a set of xxr 530s 15x8 +20 I would like to put on my ex. I purchased a set of ebay extended lug nuts I would like to use; and they dont seem to mount up flush to the wheel itself. I was wonder if anyone has any advice on a good stud/nut combo to use with xxr's?

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    Arp wheel studs.

    What brand studs did you buy
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      #3
      I didnt buy studs I bought aluminum lug nuts. Basic ebay 50mm extended lug nuts, open end. They just dont quite seat right on the wheel, and i was wondering if it wouldnt matter once i do the extended studs?

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        #4
        Why did you buy extended lug nuts? What's the point?

        Get proper nuts, use the stock studs.
        Honestly, that offset is WAY low, and is not right for your car in the first place... but I guess that's just what the kids are doing these days.






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          #5
          Do the xxr wheels use acorn lug nuts? If they do, your new lug nuts may not have the proper seat.

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            #6
            On all the xxr I had on my car I had to use the tuner style lug nuts.

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              #7
              Most aftermarket wheels use the tuner style. Many wheel shops will give you the "installation kit", which is tuner lugs and hubcentric rings for free with the purchase of new wheels.
              Makes me wonder how many people run aftermarket wheels without hubcentric rings...






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                #8
                Originally posted by deevergote View Post
                Most aftermarket wheels use the tuner style. Many wheel shops will give you the "installation kit", which is tuner lugs and hubcentric rings for free with the purchase of new wheels.
                Makes me wonder how many people run aftermarket wheels without hubcentric rings...
                *raises hand*

                the wheels are lug centric anyways.
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                  #9
                  if the bore of the aftermarket wheel isnt 64.1mm its highly advised to use the bore spacers, I even use them with nissan steelies.

                  "Wheel Hub Centric Rings are designed to fill in the gap between the hub of the car and the center bore of the wheel. Most wheel manufacturers design their wheels with a centerbore large enough to fit on most cars. Therefore, since wheel manufactures make their center bore large enough to fit most cars, most wheel fitments have a gap between the hub and the centerbore. This gap usually doesn't allow for the wheel to fit hubcentric but rather lugcentric which causes vibration. Therefore, to fill the gap and ensure the fitment is hubcentric, hub rings are used.
                  https://www.justforwheels.com/index....entric&sub=how
                  Last edited by illinois_erik; 09-16-2012, 06:21 PM.

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                    #10
                    Not spacers. Hub centric rings.

                    When I put my Falken Hanabis on my Fit, the hub size was different from my CB7 (so the rings from the CB were too large). I ordered new rings from a site on the internet.






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                      #11
                      Originally posted by wed3k View Post
                      *raises hand*

                      the wheels are lug centric anyways.
                      ABSOLUTELY!!

                      wheels with conical or spherical seats will NEVER need hubcentric rings. hubcentric rings are made for, meant for, and mainly needed on european cars with lug bolts so that the wheels can be centered before putting the lug bolts through the lug holes.....making it easier to put the wheels back on....

                      using hub centric rings on cars that do not need them can cause more problems in the longrun.
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by BIGRICH View Post
                        ABSOLUTELY!!

                        wheels with conical or spherical seats will NEVER need hubcentric rings. hubcentric rings are made for, meant for, and mainly needed on european cars with lug bolts so that the wheels can be centered before putting the lug bolts through the lug holes.....making it easier to put the wheels back on....

                        using hub centric rings on cars that do not need them can cause more problems in the longrun.
                        So you're trusting your 16 (hopefully not less) lugs to support the weight of the car and keep the tire center? The purpose of filling the gap with hub centric rings is because the car is supposed to be supported on the hub opening of the wheel itself, NOT by the lugs.
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by deevergote View Post
                          Not spacers. Hub centric rings.

                          When I put my Falken Hanabis on my Fit, the hub size was different from my CB7 (so the rings from the CB were too large). I ordered new rings from a site on the internet.
                          yeah yeah, while i was typing i was thinking how it fills in the space between the hub and wheel bore


                          Originally posted by BIGRICH View Post
                          ABSOLUTELY!!

                          wheels with conical or spherical seats will NEVER need hubcentric rings. hubcentric rings are made for, meant for, and mainly needed on european cars with lug bolts so that the wheels can be centered before putting the lug bolts through the lug holes.....making it easier to put the wheels back on....

                          using hub centric rings on cars that do not need them can cause more problems in the longrun.

                          Our cars are hub-centric so itd only be fitting with any wheel to encompass the engineering designed into it for daily driving reliability and saftey. With an open gap between the wheel and hub there is a chance the vibrations can loosen the lug nuts. Or someone not in the know will not seat the wheel and its lugs centered and tighten it up, to have bad vibrations or a loss of wheels down the road.

                          why chance anything over 10 dollar parts that wont negatively effect the project and makes the job "complete"
                          Last edited by illinois_erik; 09-16-2012, 06:27 PM.

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                            #14
                            The conical lug seats do help keep things centered, but should one lugnut come loose, the vibration caused could snap lugs, and lead to the wheel falling off. Keeping the wheel tight to the hub (all stock wheels will be snug to the hub), will keep this from happening.






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                              #15
                              Originally posted by theSOB View Post
                              So you're trusting your 16 (hopefully not less) lugs to support the weight of the car and keep the tire center? The purpose of filling the gap with hub centric rings is because the car is supposed to be supported on the hub opening of the wheel itself, NOT by the lugs.
                              im not disagreeing with you but im stubborn and i have yet to lose a wheel with my properly torqued lug nuts/bolts (lug bolts for a vw)

                              i ran hubcentric rings on my honda with motegi wheels but i just didn't do it with my current wheel setup.
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