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No start, Starter just spins, possible flywheel???

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    No start, Starter just spins, possible flywheel???

    Hello!! Here's my issue, put in a new starter (actually 3 at this point) and it just spins and sounds like it is not making contact with the flywheel. Before I put in the new (first) starter it was making an intermediate rubbing noise, like the starter was rubbing the flywheel. I changed the starter same deal. My flywheel does show some signs that it was rubbing with the starter. No teeth are missing just slight rubbing.

    I suppose my question is this. How can I check for sure that the flywheel is screwed?? I will post a pic and video in a min of what I can see. I guess I believed that the starter made more contact with the flywheel to start the car than just a few MM.

    I haven't driven the car much, right after I bought it it needed a new rack and so I drove it to the shop and that's when the rubbing noise started (wish it would have BEFORE I bought the car!!) changed the starter before I left his shop about a month later (Very slow mechanic). Got in 2 accidents after and didn't have time to touch the car until now over a year later. This is suppose to be my daily/winter beater.

    What's been changed:
    Starter, the one currently is brand new
    plugs
    wires
    battery
    lower tube seals

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      #3
      Sure you have the right starter? They are different between auto and manual transmissions. Apply twelve volts to the solenoid only and measure how far the gear extends, then compare that to the depth of the flywheel in the housing.



      P.S. When you're finished, power wash your transmission housing.
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        #4
        I do have the right starter for it, I will have to check on the gear and see if the powers not enough. Yeah the whole engine needs a power wash! I noticed how bad it was today when I was under the car.

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          #5
          How did the clutch feel when you drove it? Did it slip or chatter at all? It may be worn out, check out this video to see if your problem is similar

          https://youtu.be/AOzIFnEm2-8

          If you've replaced the starter 3 time with the correct starter then the starter isn't your problem, and the teeth on your flywheel look fine.

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            #6
            Flywheel check

            Also a way you can double check if the flywheel is good is to have a friend turn the engine over from the crackshaft pulley bolt while you watch the flywheel for any damaged teeth the whole way around.

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              #7
              Last I remembered, been a year since I've drove it, the clutch felt like a normal CB7 clutch, no noises, slipping and the such.

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                #8
                Sounds like the wrong starter to be honest. Flywheel looks a little chewed up but I can't remember how thick the teeth are on a new one.

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                  #9
                  Had a similar problem about a week ago. Pull a spark plug and put a long screw driver at least a foot long into the cylinder and crank the motor and see if it moves up and down, this will indicate if the starter is spinning the flywheel or not.

                  If not then the starter isn't making contact.
                  If yes then it is making contact.

                  In my scenario mine went up and down, next I checked for spark, no spark. I pulled my distributor and checked if the camshafts were moving, they weren't checked my timing belt and it was snapped.

                  Hopefully this isn't your issue but it could help.

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                    #10
                    My friend and I changed the starter on his CB7 a while back, and we had to go through half a dozen AutoZone remanufactured starters before we discovered the problem. The issue was that the solenoid that kicks out the gear that connects with the flywheel wasn't being pushed out far enough. It moved, so it appeared to be functional when they tested them in the store... but it didn't go far enough to catch.

                    Chances are that you do indeed have the right starter... it's just that your replacement is also faulty. If you haven't fixed the problem yet, go back to the store and test EVERY starter they have in stock. Try the one that kicks the gear out the furthest.

                    I would not recommend the screwdriver technique described above. If the screwdriver scores the top of a piston, it will become a potential hotspot, causing detonation. The sound of a whirring starter is easily distinguishable from the sound of an engine turning over.






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                      #11
                      This might be a shot in the dark, but the flywheel teeth are on a ring that can break and move freely from the rest of it.

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