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Old 01-10-2017, 03:20 PM   #21
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I had this happen to me too, I put my car in the ditch once and bent the subframe, control arm, and radius rod. That sucked. I didn't have this community to lean on for advice back then so I had it towed to a shop. After a diagnosis and estimate for $2000+ I had it towed home and my Dad and I embarked on a project. Sourced parts from a junkyard and got to swapping. Took some time but we got it done.

So you got us here giving you all the advice. Use that advice. Get under your car and look for obvious bent parts. You got the other unbent side to compare to. Replace damaged parts, get an alignment from a competent shop.
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Old 01-10-2017, 03:21 PM   #22
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Old 01-10-2017, 04:24 PM   #23
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Hey Dudes. It's definitely the lower control arm.



I don't think anything else is bent. (From what I can tell, referencing from the passenger side)

I am going to the Junk Yard with BreckAConner tomorrow to get another one.

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Old 01-10-2017, 05:07 PM   #24
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Take a really close look at the lower control arm mounting point on the cross member.
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Old 01-11-2017, 07:31 AM   #25
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Take a really close look at the lower control arm mounting point on the cross member.
Good work. But I second this. These cars like to bend at that point.
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Old 01-11-2017, 07:55 AM   #26
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Also consider getting a new control arm, that way you get new bushings (and save a lot of labor).

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MOOG RK80324 {#51365SM4040} R-Series $29.79

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Old 01-11-2017, 08:21 AM   #27
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Also consider getting a new control arm, that way you get new bushings (and save a lot of labor).

Rockauto:
MOOG RK80324 {#51365SM4040} R-Series $29.79

Amazon:
Moog RK80324 Control Arm $36.88 Prime
I was thinking about doing that....But I wanted it to be matching the other side, and I need this car on the road today, so I can go to work
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Old 01-11-2017, 08:44 AM   #28
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Take a really close look at the lower control arm mounting point on the cross member.
I'll give it a second look... I didn't compare it to the other side yet..
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Old 01-11-2017, 03:29 PM   #29
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Oh nooooo. It looks like it's bent a little.... crap
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Old 01-11-2017, 06:12 PM   #30
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Oh nooooo. It looks like it's bent a little.... crap
Another junkyard run. Takes a bit of time but it's still better than totally investing in a different car.
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Old 01-11-2017, 08:25 PM   #31
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Also consider getting a new control arm, that way you get new bushings (and save a lot of labor).

Rockauto:
MOOG RK80324 {#51365SM4040} R-Series $29.79

Amazon:
Moog RK80324 Control Arm $36.88 Prime
Damn that's cheap...I might need to get another CB
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Old 01-11-2017, 09:15 PM   #32
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I'm thinking about doing the subframe, and putting in a manual tranny at the same time.. With BreckAConner's help haha.
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Old 01-11-2017, 09:46 PM   #33
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Replacing the main subframe does not require removal of the transmission; the steering rack and unclipping/unclamping multiple power steering lines, yes. Be sure to support the engine if you disconnect the rear mount from the cross member and take the transmission out at the same time.
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Old 01-12-2017, 08:26 AM   #34
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Replacing the main subframe does not require removal of the transmission; the steering rack and unclipping/unclamping multiple power steering lines, yes. Be sure to support the engine if you disconnect the rear mount from the cross member and take the transmission out at the same time.
Will do. Thanks Fleetwood, you're awesome.

Anyone know how much Explicit Speed manual-conversion engine mounts are?
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Old 01-12-2017, 10:25 AM   #35
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Oh nooooo. It looks like it's bent a little.... crap
Is the new lower control arm bent as well?
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Old 01-12-2017, 11:30 AM   #36
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Is the new lower control arm bent as well?
The new one is fine, but the mounting spot on the subframe isnt...
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Old 01-12-2017, 11:35 AM   #37
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Will do. Thanks Fleetwood, you're awesome.

Anyone know how much Explicit Speed manual-conversion engine mounts are?
The auto to 5 speed conversion mount is $110 from ESP.net and $225 for the whole kit. It's usually recommended to purchase the entire kit, as one stiffer motor mount usually causes the others to take more abuse and fail more often.
As much as I love ESP.net and have their products, if time is against you, you will be better off with Innovative mounts, as you will receive them much sooner than the ESP.net mounts.
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^just had a look, isnt it $275 from esp?
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Old 01-12-2017, 12:16 PM   #39
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^just had a look, isnt it $275 from esp?
You are correct somehow between flipping web tabs my mind lost $50... the correct price is $275 for the full kit.
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Old 01-12-2017, 03:01 PM   #40
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You are correct somehow between flipping web tabs my mind lost $50... the correct price is $275 for the full kit.
Ouch... I know all my motor mounts are shot though, and I was like, hey might as well since I'm taking out the subframe. LOL.

Time isn't a major issue, I'm waiting for nicer weather to do all this.
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