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Old 09-25-2017, 11:12 PM   #1
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F22Chris : 1991 GMC Sonoma

Guess what happened!










5/6 drop with some trans am GTA mesh wheels on the way.


Ordered center link, idler arm, all four tie rods, upper ball joints, lower control arms, valve cover & intake manifold gaskets, full tune up parts, and an o2 sensor. Going to summit tomorrow to get 2" spindles, 3" drop springs, 3" lowering leafs, and 3" drop blocks. Going to get some Belltech drop shocks soon.
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Old 09-26-2017, 07:07 PM   #2
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You sold the VW already? wow that was quick!
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Old 09-27-2017, 05:20 PM   #3
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You sold the VW already? wow that was quick!
Yup. Apparently I had the only 5-door Mk2 for sale in the south, so my phone was blowing up like 15 minutes after I posted it to CL.

Gonna drop a 4.8L in this eventually. I'm waiting on the mail for the basic shit. Got the drop stuff already from Summit, and RA has my front end coming.
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Old 09-28-2017, 04:55 PM   #4
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Seller was a scumbag. Changed the oil before he showed it to me, and said it was fine. Today it started to get hot, and the oil is milky! So the intake gaskets are bad. I asked him like 4 times.. It's all fixable, but damn dude.. Would've been GREAT to know before I drove it around risking engine failure. Lesson learned! Might get a 4 bolt main 350 SBC instead of the 4.8
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Old 09-29-2017, 09:35 PM   #5
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4.3s make those small trucks move when paired with a WC T5 and 3.42s. Someone tried to steal my sierra on tuesday and i am still trying to get my SH*T running again.
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It's never easy man... looking forward to this one
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Old 09-30-2017, 01:43 AM   #7
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Got a butt load of parts in the mail.

Gonna drain & replace the slightly watery oil, and take it to the shop so I can do a compression test, intake gaskets, and head gaskets if needed.

Parts for these cars are so cheap it's kind of crazy. The complete tune up, valve cover gaskets, intake gaskets, complete steering setup, and upper balljoints/lower control arms were a little under $250 using nearly all OEM AC Delco or better parts. The gaskets are Meyle, and the upper ball joints are Proforged.

I got (from Summit) 2" DJM drop spindles, 3" DJM lowering springs, 3" Belltech drop leafs, and 3" drop blocks from O'reillys. There is a dude/dudet in E.Dublin selling the GTA Trans Am wheels that I talked down to $75, so I'm going to get those & new tires soon.

It's gonna get fun here soon! I'll take pics of everything as this is my first mini truck, and I want to share the fun.
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Old 09-30-2017, 01:47 AM   #8
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4.3s make those small trucks move when paired with a WC T5 and 3.42s. Someone tried to steal my sierra on tuesday and i am still trying to get my SH*T running again.
I'm sorry man.. I wish I was out there to lend a hand, you've been nothing but an awesome person to me, and it pisses me off that somebody wronged you like that. I agree on the 4.3's. They're basically a 5.7 with two cylinders removed. Mine is the crappy 60* 2.8 with a BW T5. I can't seems to find a 4.8, so I might go 5.7 four bolt with a super T10 or T56 if I can come up with the cash.
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Old 09-30-2017, 01:48 AM   #9
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It's never easy man... looking forward to this one
It really isn't, but it's ALWAYS a fun learning experience.

Edit: Also, I'm hooked. The clutch pedal feel is great, the brakes are fantastic now that I replaced the wheel cylinders & adjusted the shoes, and the truck goes without me having to floor it. If it can all stay this way with more power, it's gonna be amazing.
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Old 09-30-2017, 10:40 PM   #10
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It really isn't, but it's ALWAYS a fun learning experience.

Edit: Also, I'm hooked. The clutch pedal feel is great, the brakes are fantastic now that I replaced the wheel cylinders & adjusted the shoes, and the truck goes without me having to floor it. If it can all stay this way with more power, it's gonna be amazing.
A rebuildable 5.3 block can be had for under $100 and if you use 4.8 pistons you can get a high compression iron based L33 variant minus the 243 heads. i had been considering a S10 with a 4.8 using a WCT5 and 3.73 or 3.96 since i believe the T5 should handle the higher RPM torque on the 4.8 vs the SBC motors.
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I have been reading on the T5's, and if I used the BW, it would more than likely break due to the power levels. I think the WC's came in Fox's right? Can those handle 350-400? I'll have to do my research on that.. maybe pair it with an 8.8
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Old 10-01-2017, 05:19 PM   #12
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That might be one of my favorite pickups ever. The front end is just so mean looking!
I'm actually surprised you're not going to turn it into a Syclone clone (Sy-clone? ) I bet someone makes copies of the body panels and flares.
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Old 10-03-2017, 03:03 PM   #13
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Got the milky oil situation taken care of.


Gaskets were toasted.


Got a nice bent pushrod.


Did a tune up, and all six of the plugs looked like this or worse. I'm thinking these are what came on the car off the lot. I've never seen plugs this bad.


So far so good! Tomorrow I'm dropping it. I'm gonna do the steering components & balljoints as well. I went in and put some red loctite on the 4 steering wheel bolts to fix the loose tooth that it once was.
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Old 10-03-2017, 03:15 PM   #14
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TA mesh wheels will look awesome on that! Love the black too
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I have been reading on the T5's, and if I used the BW, it would more than likely break due to the power levels. I think the WC's came in Fox's right? Can those handle 350-400? I'll have to do my research on that.. maybe pair it with an 8.8
Actually ALL T5 were weak from factory but the WC(world class) was slightly different from the regular T5(both came on F-bodies), the main difference however is that they sell upgrade kits for the World class version made to handle power levels equal to or surpassing those of the TKO. Then lets not forget the fact that the T5 weights about 77 pounds so for weight reduction this will be the way to go.
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Actually ALL T5 were weak from factory but the WC(world class) was slightly different from the regular T5(both came on F-bodies), the main difference however is that they sell upgrade kits for the World class version made to handle power levels equal to or surpassing those of the TKO. Then lets not forget the fact that the T5 weights about 77 pounds so for weight reduction this will be the way to go.
I'm guessing they make a ford to sbc bellhousing then. It should be much easier finding a WC when we get to Texas. Foxes are scarce here.
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I'm guessing they make a ford to sbc bellhousing then. It should be much easier finding a WC when we get to Texas. Foxes are scarce here.
F- bodies are camaros and trans-ams, the 91 Z28 i had came with a WC T5 from factory as it was optional to the normal T5. There is a forum dedicated to that specific generation cars that have a bunch of folks running T5 on built 350's and even a boosted 305 that have held up; i guess it depends on whether you get a diamond from factory or not. My car was putting well over 300lbtq at 3000rpm with toyo TQ and aluminum driveshaft and never had an issue. Those wheels will take 235/55r16 or 245/50r16 with 255/50r16 being the absolute best size for grip as well as having more options for drag radials. Depending on how much power you plan on putting down, the GM unit might be able to handle the power with a cheap factory upgrade being using the 3.42 LSD from camaro or Trans-am. Another tip i will give you is to source a WS6 quick steer gear-box.
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You should also look to see if you can use the later model LS powered camaro brake calipers on your truck as this is a popular mod for third generation camaros unless you can find the evr so elusive 1L3 brake kit which aside from being expensive as sh8t is also extremely hard to find.
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I'm going to do the brakes when I swap the 6 for sure. I'm looking for 300-350hp. I've done some reading, and the t5 I have now can live up to 265ftlbs. I have to do some research on the WC, cause if I can do a rebuild with stronger parts to stand up to the power for less than a t56, I'm all over that. Learning experience and piece of mind sounds awesome.

I gotta see what I can use with the 5/6 drop for brakes. I'm sure I can find something.

More pics coming tomorrow of the drop.
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I'm going to do the brake when I swap the 6 for sure. I'm looking for 300-350hp. I've done some reading, and the t5 I have now can live up to 265ftlbs. I have to do some research on the WC, cause if I can do a rebuild with stronger parts to stand up to the power for less than a t56, I'm all over that. Learning experience and piece of mind sounds awesome.

I gotta see what I can use with the 5/6 drop for brakes. I'm sure I can find something.

More pics coming tomorrow of the drop.
Price wise the T5 upgrade is about the same as a stock T56 there is however the compatibility as a plus since I believe the T56 is a tad longer than T5 and slight fitment isdues
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