Cb7 racing seats

[senorguapo16]

How do I install a racing belt harness bar if I have the automatic seatbelts, will I have to fabricate something?

[steelbluesleepR]

Harness bars are a really bad idea, actually. Harnesses in general are terrible in a daily driver, actually. In the event of a rollover, they will keep you bolt upright and will crush your head when the roof caves in. A cage is no better. It will keep your roof intact, but will still crush your skull when you smack your head against it without a helmet.

I'm not aware of a CB-specific bolt-in harness bar, either. For a car with auto seat belts, you might have to get some mounting points fabricated and welded in.

[deevergote]

If you intend to drive your car on the street, retain your factory belts. If this is to be a dedicated track car, install a harness bar as per the requirements of the sanctioning body. Those things are usually spelled out quite clearly.

[lbus9168]

Don't run a harness on the street, you have a safety system and it won't work without everything together.

If you run a harness, only run a five or six point, 4points are very dangerous, make sure you at least haveba hal cage, and at least pad the cage (but seriously, wear a helmet)

[masospaghetti]

Are you planning on tracking this thing? Why a harness?

A good alternative to a harness for light track use is the CG-Lock, keeps the factory lap belt really tight and holds you to the seat. http://www.amazon.com/Lock-Performan...ywords=cg-lock

[aventari]

A Schroth Rallye 3 or 4 is DOT approved and safe, I use one in my BMW track/street car.

It doesn't use a harness bar.

https://www.schrothracing.com/tuning/rallye/rallye-4

[deevergote]

It says it mounts to the stock locations, but how do the shoulder straps mount?


Unless there's a good reason to run a harness, it's best to retain the stock belt. Sure, a harness looks cool... but being safe is far more important than looking cool. Anyone that is impressed by unsafe "cool" modifications isn't worth impressing anyway!

[senorguapo16]

And so that lap belt tighter with racing seats, are a good idea for a daily?

[deevergote]

Good luck, homie.

[aventari]

It says it mounts to the stock locations, but how do the shoulder straps mount?


Unless there's a good reason to run a harness, it's best to retain the stock belt. Sure, a harness looks cool... but being safe is far more important than looking cool. Anyone that is impressed by unsafe "cool" modifications isn't worth impressing anyway!

So I totally agree with you that harnesses should be used with caution and the full knowledge of the risks and drawbacks. For a real track car they're totally worth it, but a street Accord? You're right probably not a good idea.

Anyway here are some details on the Schroth http://soloracer.com/harnschrothfaq.html

This is how they mount in my E30, the shoulder bolt to the stock lap belt attachment points. Keep in mind, Schroth has a list of cars that this is approved for, and I don't know if the Accord is on that list, and I can't find it on the web. It came with the belts when I bought them and they were mostly German cars.

[tommi]

I converted to manual belts prior to running racing harness. Cant run racing seat with auto belts.

[steelbluesleepR]

So I totally agree with you that harnesses should be used with caution and the full knowledge of the risks and drawbacks. For a real track car they're totally worth it, but a street Accord? You're right probably not a good idea.

Anyway here are some details on the Schroth http://soloracer.com/harnschrothfaq.html

This is how they mount in my E30, the shoulder bolt to the stock lap belt attachment points. Keep in mind, Schroth has a list of cars that this is approved for, and I don't know if the Accord is on that list, and I can't find it on the web. It came with the belts when I bought them and they were mostly German cars.

please take those out of your car right now. they WILL snap your back in any collision as well as your passenger's back. Shoulder harnesses should not be mounted below 10-15 degrees below horizontal from your shoulder, and idealy are mounted above.

[aventari]

please take those out of your car right now. they WILL snap your back in any collision as well as your passenger's back. Shoulder harnesses should not be mounted below 10-15 degrees below horizontal from your shoulder, and idealy are mounted above.

These are installed as per manufacturer specifications and are DOT compliant.

http://www.schroth.com/en/segments/t...-2_2014-05.pdf



I trust a ten million dollar multi-national safety product corporation that obtains DOT approval through crash test data to provide a safe seat belt.

[steelbluesleepR]

fine. good luck. racing seats are not designed to take that load, especially ones as obviously out of date as yours. Do not give any more advice on the subject.

[aventari]

Do not give any more advice on the subject.

No need to be a dick because someone disagrees with you. It doesn't make your argument stronger