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Old 06-26-2018, 12:19 AM   #1
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I got the car bone stock with no engine or transmission in 2012. I daily drove it for a while until I lost my f22a to a crumbled bisimoto retainer at 6000 rpm on track.

ENGINE:
JDM 1994 H22a
600 miles after refresh at the time of this post (June 2018)
Honda OEM Piston Rings
King Race Main Bearings
King Race Rod Bearings
KSTuned balance shaft delete kit
Gates Racing Timing belt
KSTuned manual timing tensioner
Exclusively filled with Amsoil Dominator 10w-30

Ferrea Spring Locators
Ferrea Dual Endurance Valve Springs
Ferrea Tool Steel Retainers
Ferrea CNC Valve Locks

Hondata heat shield intake manifold gasket
Stock intake manifold port matched to an S2000 F20c Throttle Body
K&N Air Filter

OEM OBD1 H22 340cc Low-Impedance Injectors cleaned and flow tested by Injextor Pulse in Chesapeake, Virginia
Walbro 255lph fuel pump
Fuel Tank vented to atmosphere through a roll over valve(deleted charcoal canister)
EGR Block off/delete
A/C and P/S removed
Mocal Sandwich plate with AN fittings
Setrab engine oil cooler with -8AN lines
Koyo 53mm radiator

EXHAUST:
PLM 4-1 “Ram-horn” with 2.5” collector
2.5” header back exhaust welded together by me
2.5” Dynapypes straight through bullet muffler(located near center of car)

TRANSMISSION:
M2f4
Mfactory Helical with Racepack
4.64 final drive
Exedy oem clutch
Stainless braided clutch line(deletes dampener)

EXTERIOR:
Front windows removed(except for windshield)
Rear windows are lexan
FIA Afterburner Rain light
Front right headlight removed to allow air to filter


INTERIOR:
6-point roll cage with NASCAR door bars on both sides extending deep into doors
Cage welded by my father and I, tubing purchased from RollCageConponents
Kirkey containment seat
RaceQuip 5-point harness
Heater core removed
Innovate Wideband AFR
Innovate Oil temp/pressure
Longacre Racing killswitch
Battery in trunk/hatch area
Cheddas Auto adjustable CNC shifter
NRG quick release and wheel

SUSPENSION/WHEELS/BRAKES:
Currently no shocks on car(working with two separate companies right now to have them make a two way adjustable coilover for our chassis)
Poly bushings
Progress Rear 22mm Sway Bar
SPC Front upper balljoints


R-O-H Conversion from TAS
Prelude Vtec 11.1” rotors
Stoptech Sport Slotted rotors
Carbotech race pads
JEGS 2 in, 3 out adjustable proportion valve
Honed booster delete with 7/8” civic master cylinder

Enkei 15x6.5” OZ Rally lancer wheels with 225/45/15 Toyo RA1
Rota Slipstream 15x7” with 225/45/15 Toyo RR


AUDIO:
Weight Reduction
No speakers/radio
LISTEN TO THE EXHAUST

Future:
I need to cut out about 50lbs to get the car down to 2650 with driver
I’m going to cut out the rusted quarters this winter and weld in not rusted ones haha













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Old 06-26-2018, 01:39 AM   #2
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Engine looks like a simple setup, just beefed up in key areas. Do you know what power you're making?

And when you say you're working with a couple companies to make coilovers... is the plan to have them put into real production for anyone to buy? My plan now has just been to get Variant 2s, so some more proper options would be great, since my wagon will also see track time.
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Old 06-26-2018, 10:35 AM   #3
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Hell yeah. That wagon looks like fun. Very cool.
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Old 06-26-2018, 01:28 PM   #4
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I completely forgot to mention, the car is built for Honda Challenge 2 for road racing with NASA. Class rules say the h22 has to be stock with the exception of the parts Iíve done. It made 193whp/153wtq on a dynopack but Iím hoping to make a little more power and then detune it after swapping to a 1320 performance 4-2-1 header. Iíll keep you posted on that as well.

And for the coilovers, Mfactory actually said if they get five orders they can make a production run. So thatís one option. The other two companies Iím working with may or may not offer it. Fortune Auto will do it for anyone but the two ways from them are in the upper $3000 range as theyíre considered custom built.
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Old 06-26-2018, 06:35 PM   #5
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You had D2s on your wagon before right? I think my friend bought that old set from you if thats the case.

Nice build too btw
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Old 06-26-2018, 08:56 PM   #6
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You had D2s on your wagon before right? I think my friend bought that old set from you if thats the case.

Nice build too btw
Dan? Yes I did. They were originally supposed to be place holders so I could track the car for the time being, but They worked much much better than what I was expecting so they got lowered on the priority list. And thank you! Iíll have to sort through all the misc progress photos sometime this weekend and order them better.

And an update on the coilover thing. The route Iím going to take is likely to pick up some fortunes now and then in a couple of seasons decide whether to upgrade the fortunes or have Anze build me a custom set of shocks. Probably Penskes. This will get me back on track in time to make the August race at VIR.
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Old 06-27-2018, 06:11 PM   #7
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What a beast! Great build. Props to you and your pops on the cage!

The video you posted isn't playing though.
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Old 06-27-2018, 07:47 PM   #8
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cool to see another CB being tracked, and a wagon no less! superb work here.

some questions:
how do you deal with oil starvation? I spun a bearing on my last H22 due to lateral g's during cornering. a baffled pan is the obvious solution, so are you running one? if not perhaps you are running more oil than normal?

how do you like the feel pedal feel without a booster? I see you have an adjustable prop valve anyway. I never liked driving a car with a deleted booster, even on the street it did not inspire confidence.

how do you like your LSD? I'm running the factory LSD in the M2B4 trans and it's decent but I'm sure a the mfactory is nice. I'm running the same clutch as you, but what flywheel are you using?

very interested in your next suspension setup. I'm in the market for a nice set of track coilovers and looked into fortune auto. Penske is too rich for my blood but if you can get more details on the mfactory I'd like to consider it.
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Old 07-09-2018, 05:36 PM   #9
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cool to see another CB being tracked, and a wagon no less! superb work here.

some questions:
how do you deal with oil starvation? I spun a bearing on my last H22 due to lateral g's during cornering. a baffled pan is the obvious solution, so are you running one? if not perhaps you are running more oil than normal?

how do you like the feel pedal feel without a booster? I see you have an adjustable prop valve anyway. I never liked driving a car with a deleted booster, even on the street it did not inspire confidence.

how do you like your LSD? I'm running the factory LSD in the M2B4 trans and it's decent but I'm sure a the mfactory is nice. I'm running the same clutch as you, but what flywheel are you using?

very interested in your next suspension setup. I'm in the market for a nice set of track coilovers and looked into fortune auto. Penske is too rich for my blood but if you can get more details on the mfactory I'd like to consider it.

Sorry for the delayed response!

So first off, I completely failed to mention Iím actually running the pan from Moroso. Itís baffled with trap doors. With the oil cooler and kicked out pan, total fill after engine rebuild was something like 7.25 quarts but on an oil change is closer to 6.5. So that helps immensely.

The pedal is extremely easy to push and much easier to modulate as it has more travel now. Not just because of the smaller diameter master cylinder but also the pedal ratio is different from drilling another hole closer to the pivot point. I absolutely love it and, keep in mind, Iím road racing so Iím using a lot of brake pedal. Iíve never been more confident in brakes as I am now.

I again apologize for leaving out the flywheel. I have the lightweight three piece fidanza. The $60 surface replacement was my selling point. Iíve nevwr had any issues with it. And of course I should mention Iím using ARP fasteners for the clutch and the flywheel.

Iím extremely happy with the LSD, itís pretty wicked. Definitely made it more obvious that I had a front/rear Iimbalance in spring rate/damper settings. But the traction is pretty phenomenal and it certainly is working better than my previous LSD as far as any issues with the inside tire locking up under heavy braking through bends.

Mfactory is willing to straight up custom make 5 sets of coilovers for our chassis if we set up a group buy. I imagine that they wouldnít have to be all valved the same but Iíd have to pursue that further.

I just ordered fortune 500s though. Iíll decide later on down the road if I want to have them upgraded to a 2-way or if I am going to go with the custom Penskes. As I still havenít heard back from BC Racing, I was tired of waiting for an answer, though for the price, If they tell me yes, theyíll make them, I will still consider it a valid option.
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Old 07-09-2018, 05:39 PM   #10
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What a beast! Great build. Props to you and your pops on the cage!

The video you posted isn't playing though.
https://www.youtube.com/user/SOHCwagon

And thank you very much. I appreciate it.
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Old 07-10-2018, 06:52 PM   #11
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Do you have much track time with the Moroso pan? I've been looking into an Accusump and trying to find a good sandwich plate that can accommodate that and a couple sensors, because I was reading that people were having problems with the Moroso pan not doing anything for road racing. But those were old forum posts on other sites, so I'm curious if they ever updated the design to address complaints. I'll still go Accusump for its help against dry starts, but you can't have too much insurance on an expensive build.
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Old 07-13-2018, 12:30 AM   #12
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It's awesome to lay eyes on another CB race car. The only one I've ever seen was running in the Honda Challenge 2 same as you a few years back. Also thanks for sharing your feedback on the parts you're using; it's definitely helpful information to have.
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Old 07-17-2018, 09:16 PM   #13
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Do you have much track time with the Moroso pan? I've been looking into an Accusump and trying to find a good sandwich plate that can accommodate that and a couple sensors, because I was reading that people were having problems with the Moroso pan not doing anything for road racing. But those were old forum posts on other sites, so I'm curious if they ever updated the design to address complaints. I'll still go Accusump for its help against dry starts, but you can't have too much insurance on an expensive build.
Iíve actually got tons of track time with the Moroso and I have never had oil starvation issues like that.
And Iíve got a Mocal thermostatic plate with a setrab cooler but Iím using a sensor installed in place of the stock one. Then the oil temp sender is in the oil pan.
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Old 07-17-2018, 09:20 PM   #14
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It's awesome to lay eyes on another CB race car. The only one I've ever seen was running in the Honda Challenge 2 same as you a few years back. Also thanks for sharing your feedback on the parts you're using; it's definitely helpful information to have.
Iím an open book! And Thatís Karl! I had actually messaged him years and years ago. Then in May I was supposed to race with him in a field of 17 cars in H2 but I had issues and DNS. but Karl actually won that race at Hyperfest this year. I highly recommend trying to find his video of the in car footage on YouTube. Iíll link it at some point if I can remember to do so. ďHyperfest 2018 VIR ACCORD Honda challengeĒ would probably be a good search
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