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Old 11-27-2010, 10:11 AM   #21
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You do know you posted in a diy section right?

If you're worried about messing up your rack then just cionvert it or get a donor and convert it. Not hard to figure out honestly.
I don't know why everyone is giving me a hard time around here lately


Here i'll ask like this.


My lines and everything is completely together on my ps set up right now. There's fluid at the bottom of the res.

So i'm assuming in my rack there's still fluid and it's still lubricated.

So if I take the lines off the fluid will piss out the rack and not be lubricated anymore(i'm assuming).

I guess my question is whats going to happen to my rack if it's not lubricated. Because op says looping just stresses it out.

I don't know where my ps leak is. I dont know if the rack is leaking or the pump. I hate the way the pump looks too in the front of the car. Since it doesn't work I just want to get rid of it.

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Old 11-28-2010, 10:30 PM   #22
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I don't know why everyone is giving me a hard time around here lately

Here i'll ask like this.

I guess my question is whats going to happen to my rack if it's not lubricated.
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you'll get rash

nothing will happen to the rack, if its got a leak fix the leak, if its from the rack seals replace rack
you wont like your car w/o PS
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Old 11-28-2010, 11:05 PM   #23
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loop with a vent

Loop the system and vent it to air, it requires a resinous still, but much less of one. Some people sell kits, but you can make your own. I also have not seen any problem with just looping, I do use longer lines then most people to hopefully reduce the pressure, but yeah no problems so far. Most people simply run without anything, stupid bastards.
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Old 11-29-2010, 07:21 AM   #24
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nice, seems like alot of work, yes removing the rack will b easier buut to a normal joe it may not b worth it.

i like ps but thats me.. good write up tho
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Old 11-29-2010, 02:21 PM   #25
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How much weight does that save?
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Old 11-29-2010, 07:06 PM   #26
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What happens if I just pull out the ps pump. I have no ps at the moment and like it.

Can I tuck the huge wires behind next to the firewall or just take them out all together.
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Old 12-05-2010, 08:07 PM   #27
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What happens if I just pull out the ps pump. I have no ps at the moment and like it.

Can I tuck the huge wires behind next to the firewall or just take them out all together.
leave the pump

this DIY is for people who took out the PS, and want to decrease the force needed to turn the wheel
if you have PS LEAVE IT
if theres nothing wrong with it dont touch it
again, if theres a leak FIX THE LEAK!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 02-15-2011, 06:58 PM   #28
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Oscar, what happens with the VSS??? did you loop it???
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Old 02-15-2011, 08:08 PM   #29
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Oscar, what happens with the VSS??? did you loop it???
Get a a 94-00 accord VSS or BB6 VSS, no VSS lines
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Old 02-23-2011, 08:19 PM   #30
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I have an H with no ps and have been thinking about putting it on but this sounds alot better in the long run. How would you go about re-greasing it other then taking it back apart? would there be any way to add a grease zerk to the body?
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Old 02-23-2011, 08:38 PM   #31
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^ you really would not need to, the fluid does not lubricate anything. The piston tube has wiper seals and o rings to keep the fluid in that section of the rack. The actual rack gear and pinion gear are lubricated with grease from the factory and never gets relubed unless you take it apart.

At 180k when i tore mine apart there was some aged grease, but grease none the less... i had tried to add some by lubing the teeth on the rack while changing inner tierods many miles earlier but the wiper seals are good and let very little grease get on the pinion, instead i found it packe around the seal on the outside.

so the PS fluid does not lube anything except a nylon piston ring, which has its cylinder removed in this write up causing nothing to slide against and need lubricated. i machined off the pistion but either way it accomplishes the same goal eliminating the only sliding surface that the PS fluid touches.
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Old 02-25-2011, 03:51 PM   #32
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Good to know, my motor will be out soon for some service so I think I'll give this a try.
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Old 02-27-2011, 07:03 PM   #33
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Get a a 94-00 accord VSS or BB6 VSS, no VSS lines
And these ones don't need fluid running to them? Why is ours run like that then?
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Old 03-02-2011, 08:51 AM   #34
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And these ones don't need fluid running to them? Why is ours run like that then?
Its purpose is to decrease the steering assist at higher speeds, so its not as twitchy.
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Old 03-02-2011, 10:59 PM   #35
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what car did the manual rack come on? can you post it in the first post
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Old 04-16-2011, 03:41 PM   #36
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Anybody else's seem alot harder to turn right than to turn left?? I did it a little different by cutting off the piston ring?on the shaft. I think I might try it without cutting that off using the rack I took out. There also seems to be some play in the steering wheel when driving straight, it wanders a little. Any input?

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Old 04-16-2011, 05:15 PM   #37
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did you get an alignment, and did you get the steering wheel lined back up dead on after you took the universal joints off.

i machined off the pistion also, so i am in same situation, i did not notice more effort in one direction over the other, but it did seem like the wheel would turn slightly more in one direction before stopping, i think the piston may have acted as a stop for right turns.

also, i noticed minimal play it wasn't actually in the steering but it seemed like the set up has a little more freeplay than PS which is to be expected.
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Old 09-09-2011, 04:23 PM   #38
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So i'm redoing the manual rack with the one I originally took out, i'm not going to cut the ring off of the rod this time. Curious though when you say "do not install cylinder back its not necessary and its extra weight" are you talking about the big silver sleeve? I put that back when I originally did mine and am now thinking that's my problem, just want to verify that's what you're talking about before i put the next one back together!

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Old 09-09-2011, 04:32 PM   #39
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what car did the manual rack come on? can you post it in the first post
There has never been a manual rack, this is a DIY for making your own from a power rack.

Nice write up, bookmarked for future use!
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So i'm redoing the manual rack with the one I originally took out, i'm not going to cut the ring off of the rod this time. Curious though when you say "do not install cylinder back its not necessary and its extra weight" are you talking about the big silver sleeve? I put that back when I originally did mine and am now thinking that's my problem, just want to verify that's what you're talking about before i put the next one back together!

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Yea the silver sleeve dont go back in. Yes there is a lil bit of whel play but not much. Also there is an adjuster nut that you can adjust the rack with

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