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Old 12-19-2005, 08:34 PM   #1
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Akebono VS Nissin

Akebono Calipers VS Nissin Calipers
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Whenever you go to the parts store or shop online for brake pads, brake lines or even new calipers, your final selection is "What brand of calipers?" So whats up with the two different calipers, what makes them different, and why should you care?
First, if you are simply wanting to know what to look for so you can get to the parts store to order the parts; but dont give a crap about why they are different, here are the comparisons of what to look for on the outside surface of the caliper.

Nissin - "Nissin"


Akebono - "triangle shapes"



What are the differences? Is one better than the other?
(excuse the fact that these are dirty as can be, got inspired for this thread last minute, and these were just sitting in the garage.)

Akebono Caliper



Nissin Caliper


Caliper Comparison

*Most obvious difference is that spring on the Nissin. In my opinion, more unneeded parts are more parts that can break.
*Akebono also seems thicker (has good and bad, more heat to dissipate, but stronger if they are same metals)



Akebono Bracket



Nissin Bracket



Bracket Comparison

*Different on how "floating calipers" attach to bracket
---Akebono Caliper to bracket bolt is longer, and whole thing "floats"
---Nissin bolt is smaller, and attaches to another "sleeve" which "floats" So again, nissin has 2 parts where 1 would work just fine, more to break.

*Nissin/Akebono MUST be used with their respective brackets for this reason.



Nissin Pad Wear Issue



Pad Wear Issue (Nissin)
*This pad was taken off my car after I swapped my Nissin calipers over to Akebono. Happened on both sides of car, and both pads w/in each caliper.

The right side of the picture is the actual Pad Material(what sits on rotor)
The left side is the backing plate
The red line is the outside edge of the pad(closest to outside of rotor)
Yellow area is the inside edge of the pad(closest to the axle nut)
Circled area is a LIP of extra brake pad.

It seems that the "extra" spring that was on the Nissin caliper(see pic above) has worn down over the years, letting the pad rub off the edge of the rotor. It may have been possible to just bend the spring out so it pushed down more on the pad, but I decided to go with akebono, only way you can mess that up is cross-threading the bolts.

*The circled part isnt the only part that was hanging over the edge, it was all the way around, but its too blury on the part nearest the camera.




Other Advantages:
Higher performance pads, ex. Hawk HPS pads only available for Akebono


Other Findings:
Akebonos were MOSTLY found on sedans
Nissins MOSTLY found on coupes.
*As you can see, "mostly" is the word since there are the few random ones out there. This could be from factory or from aftermarket replacement, so dont assume, make sure you check.




The information in this post is believed to be true, but is only backed up by my opinion. Attempt any How-to's, DIY's or advice at your own risk, stay safe, and remember to use jack stands, not just a jack.

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Old 12-20-2005, 08:05 AM   #2
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Thanks for the great info.
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Old 12-20-2005, 05:39 PM   #3
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If coupe are suppose to be the sport version of the accord why ddid they get crappy nissan caliber? honda engineer must have a good reason to use nissan design? from what stated above akobono caliber is way better /stronger/less part/more aftermarket then nissan. and it should be a easy direct swap right? just buy the bracket/caliber and I can swap rfom nissan to akebono? is there any real stoping power diff from the 2 caliber??
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Old 12-20-2005, 06:04 PM   #4
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If coupe are suppose to be the sport version of the accord why ddid they get crappy nissan caliber? honda engineer must have a good reason to use nissan design? from what stated above akobono caliber is way better /stronger/less part/more aftermarket then nissan. and it should be a easy direct swap right? just buy the bracket/caliber and I can swap rfom nissan to akebono? is there any real stoping power diff from the 2 caliber??
Not sure why there was even 2 different ones in the first place. If my pads werent dragging off the edge of my rotor, I would have probably kept them; but they were, so they were replaced.

If you wanted to switch over, yeah, you just need the caliper and bracket.

Difference in braking power, nothing noticeable. I got brand new OEM Honda akebono calipers/brackets for 50 bux, so I didnt really have a choice not to

edit: but although coupes are meant to be "sportier," a sedan would be expected to be hauling much more weight around versus the coupe.
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Old 12-23-2005, 08:44 PM   #5
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Thanks for the write-up. Glad I inspired somebody!

I think that when I went to get brake pads awhile back and the guy behind the counter asked, "Akebono or Nissin?" I said, "Yes!" ... and got lucky. LOL

Now, I know.
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Old 03-02-2006, 02:27 PM   #6
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keep in mind all rear discs on hondas were and still are nissin...
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Old 03-22-2006, 12:45 AM   #7
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I would also like to point out that Akebono uses 17mm bolts/pins for the braket-to piston where Nissin uses 14mm. In case you pull some off in a junkyard make sure you take those bolts/pins as well if you're doing an Akebono swap.
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If coupe are suppose to be the sport version of the accord why ddid they get crappy nissan caliber? honda engineer must have a good reason to use nissan design? from what stated above akobono caliber is way better /stronger/less part/more aftermarket then nissan. and it should be a easy direct swap right? just buy the bracket/caliber and I can swap rfom nissan to akebono? is there any real stoping power diff from the 2 caliber??
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Old 04-18-2006, 07:39 PM   #9
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I'd like to mention that honda still uses nissin calipers on all there sport bikes (CBR's and whatnot) so there must be something good about them. L8r
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Old 04-18-2006, 08:09 PM   #10
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I'd like to mention that honda still uses nissin calipers on all there sport bikes (CBR's and whatnot) so there must be something good about them. L8r
nissin also manufactures the Spoon calipers you commonly see on JDMed out cars. Im sure this is just a design flaw . . . or something of that nature.
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nissin also manufactures the Spoon calipers you commonly see on JDMed out cars. Im sure this is just a design flaw . . . or something of that nature.

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Old 05-09-2007, 12:24 AM   #12
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Old 05-15-2007, 11:37 AM   #13
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Anyone know more about why Nissin is used?
Can't prove it but if I had a guess, cost...The akebono probably made it on sedans partly because they were cheaper...more sedans were produced, and the "sportier" coupe got nissins, because less made..a little more cost was ok and they probably performed better, at least in theory...
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I asked for rear pads and the guy said akebono or nissin. why is there an option if they are all nissin. and are you positive they are all nissin?
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yea MH doesnt say Akebono or Nissin for the rear disc brakes....but for the fronts it says Akebono for my 93 Se....

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when I went to get front pads from the dealer, they gave me nissan, and I was like no there akebono. and there like wth it says on th ecomp it should be nissin.
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It seems that the "extra" spring that was on the Nissin caliper(see pic above) has worn down over the years, letting the pad rub off the edge of the rotor. It may have been possible to just bend the spring out so it pushed down more on the pad, but I decided to go with akebono, only way you can mess that up is cross-threading the bolts.

i had this prob before but was the pads that the part store gave me i said nissin they fit tight thought maybe manufacturer so went to crappy tire and bought some monroes and voila prob solved and i dont know how cb's work in the states but here in canada i have owned 3 seprate cb7's completly stock and they all had nissin i have a coupe also will chek soon wich calaipers it has.
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Maybe I missed this but I'm just going to ask. Are Nissin pad interchangable with Akebono calipers?
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Maybe I missed this but I'm just going to ask. Are Nissin pad interchangable with Akebono calipers?
I don't think so.

Nissin should be nissin pads and akebono to akebono pads.
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I accidently bought Nissin pads for my Akebono calipers, i was used to my sedan which had the Nissins on them, so I put them on with the Powerslot plus kit, now the pads have the wear issue noted in this thread, but goddam my coupe stops so much better the sedan with Nissins its not even funny which is hilarious, so next step: get Akebono pads... lol yeah
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