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Old 03-18-2010, 05:58 PM   #1
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cam shaft seal leaking

I started my engine and all was good until i crawled underneath and seen a little oil on the back side on the edge of the head gasket and about shit, but after looking around, its coming from my cam shaft seal which is brand new, and i installed it all right. So what would cause that to happen. im going to replace it, but what if it still leaks after i put the seal in. they are both honda factory seals. any ideas why this is happening.
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Old 03-18-2010, 11:01 PM   #2
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anyone have this happen?
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Old 03-18-2010, 11:07 PM   #3
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You rub oil all over the seal before installing it?
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Old 03-18-2010, 11:27 PM   #4
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no, just the factory grease in the groove that was already in it.
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Old 03-18-2010, 11:31 PM   #5
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i was brought up to soak the cam seals for 5min before installing, thats just how i do it, always no matter what put oil on any seal.. just my 2 cents
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Old 03-19-2010, 12:05 AM   #6
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ill try that but all the other seals are fine that just had grease packed in the middle. thanks
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Old 03-19-2010, 12:09 AM   #7
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ill try that but all the other seals are fine that just had grease packed in the middle. thanks
hope all goes well good luck
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Old 03-19-2010, 12:15 AM   #8
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Yeah i hope it works, its stressing me out.
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Old 03-19-2010, 12:40 AM   #9
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yea just get a new one and oil the shit out of it..
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Old 03-19-2010, 12:49 AM   #10
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do you think by not oiling it that it tore it some how or something
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Old 03-19-2010, 02:01 AM   #11
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yep it`s torn ....oil it,, time too get 1 more....oil is your friend
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Old 03-19-2010, 02:04 AM   #12
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would you suggest taking the rocker arm loose to get it out, because its going to be hard to get out without removing the rocker arm or loosening it
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Old 03-19-2010, 02:05 AM   #13
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when it is installed, make sure it is even and not cockeyed.
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Old 03-19-2010, 02:10 AM   #14
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Ive looked at it closely when i put it in and you can still see that its still lined up perfect all the way around. how would you go about taking it out. would you loosen the rocker arm?
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Old 03-19-2010, 02:19 AM   #15
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nah, you can get it out with a pick or small screwdriver.
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Old 03-19-2010, 02:23 AM   #16
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thanks for the help, at first i thought it was my head gasket, but i guess it just run down to it. much rather it be this seal instead, lol
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Old 03-19-2010, 07:06 AM   #17
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You may not be able to tell but that particular seal may just not have aligned properly (just cant see it).

Logically if its intalled properly then it could only be the metal or the seal. If its not the metal then its the seal.

Unlikely to be the metal (unless it has chips or a crack) so it can only be the seal.

If the seal is new then i could only deduce that it was human error in its installation.

No biggie, and happens to the best of mechanics hence they cheat and use gasket makers just in case it does happen (the liquid blue or grey paste) - so that if it isn't installed correctly this paste will make up for the slack. It saves them from needing to reopen it so soon. That way when it does leak its of their warranty period.
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Old 03-19-2010, 03:14 PM   #18
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It's also quite possible you rolled the lip of the seal when you installed it. This can cause a leak, and is hard to see once installed. You have to be very careful when installing it, I always watch the entire diamater to make sure the lip doesn't get caught.
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Old 03-20-2010, 01:19 PM   #19
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I changed my seal last night, cant test it yet, but im trying to be optimistic. The old seal did look like it was pinched a little on the side, but not sure. Hopefully it wont leak when i start it again.. lol
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Old 03-20-2010, 02:24 PM   #20
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What's the easiest way to replace the cam seal? When I had my rocker shaft assembly off to do the lower o-ring spark plug seals, it looked like the spring of my cam seal had come loose out of the seal.

I was thinking I might be able to remove the upper timing belt cover, loosen the timing belt tension with the adjuster and remove the timing belt from the cam sprocket after marking its location on the cam sprocket. I would then remove the cam sprocket with an impact to get to the cam seal. Is this method the best way, or is there an easier way to replace the cam seal?

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