motor not strating.......

[johnny12]

I just did a head gasket change and took off the value cover the thing that taps on the springs and the head the intake and header along with cam cam pully and the other belts.....well now I put everything back together and connect everything but it just turns over but I been looking around and I didn't set the bottom crank in tdc and I just put the cam pully in up position could that cause it not to start ...and note it does sound different turning over like belts turning real fast but idk any suggestions

[deevergote]

From what you've typed, I really can't follow what you did. It sounds to me that you took the head apart without knowing how to properly put it back together. If the valve timing is off, the engine will not run.

['93CB7Ex]

yea fix the timing belt.

[johnny12]

How do u set the valve timing ...

[GeoffM]

http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=55332

You might need a new head. If you've cranked it and the valves slapped the pistons then all the work you just did was for nothing.

[Anthony@JTauto]

Take belt off and put the motor in tdc. If you don't know how let us know because there are plenty of guides on the internet.

[johnny12]

I have no clue how to set everything to tdc

[deevergote]

Then how did you expect to put it all back together after removing the head?

Did you use a manual for the head gasket change (I certainly hope so, because without a manual, you'd have had to have known the head bolt removal/installation pattern, as well as the torque specs... otherwise, that head is very possibly warped by now.) If you used a manual, the instructions for setting everything properly for the timing belt install will be in there.
If you don't have a manual, I STRONGLY suggest going to www.helminc.com and buying one. They're not cheap, but that's the best manual you can get... the Honda factory service manual. Even a total beginner can do just about anything with patience and focus... and that manual.

However, if you've just haphazardly removed the head bolts, the head is probably damaged. If your valve/piston timing is way off, you may have already smacked your pistons into your valves... definitely ruining the valves, possibly damaging the head, and probably scoring the pistons (which will be creating a source of engine-destroying detonation when the motor is running.)
Essentially... in the worst case scenario... you may have broke about 65% of the parts inside the engine.

[johnny12]

Alright well Shit I just forgot to time it but can I still try to

[speedfr3ak]

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[johnny12]

So how do u set the valve timing and the timing if u don't no stop repl
aying

[deevergote]

The OP doesn't seem to understand how to open a book, and certainly lacks the ability to communicate clearly...

I told you where to go. I told you what to do. Do that.

Nobody here can help you, because we have no idea what you've done to your motor. You didn't follow any proper procedure, from what you're telling us... so there's nothing we can do. Especially since you type like a 3 year old, and we can barely understand you anyway.

Buy a manual. Follow it.

[johnny12]

I don't like your attuide man I ask simple ?, how to time a Honda accord I don't have the book so don't you think I wouldn't ask if I had it ok then

[JesterMasque]

I don't like your attuide man I ask simple ?, how to time a Honda accord I don't have the book so don't you think I wouldn't ask if I had it ok then

No one on here can explain how to time a motor better than a service manual (debatable, but for this thread's sake). It will have pictures and diagrams with indication marks and timing tick marks so that, as said before, even a beginner tech could do the job correctly with some concentration and focus.

If the motor is spinning "faster" it sounds like you installed the timing belt wrong. If that's true and you've been trying to start the car all you can do is pray that you valves and pistons didn't kiss [your motor goodbye].

You can even go down to the local Pep Boys/AutoZone/Napa and pick up a Haynes manual. They aren't as detailed as the factory service manual, but they're about half the price and still have a tremendous amount of information.

This should be a great lesson for you. As strong as our motors are, they are so because of procedure that goes into assembling them. Disassembling/reassembling without strict adherence to these procedures (such as the head bolt tightening sequence) will result in your motor failing, no matter how well built it was before.

And don't mistake deev for having an attitude. This is the beginners' forum and he's just trying to explain to you what's up in the straightest way possible.

Good luck with your motor! You'll probably need it...

[JesterMasque]

http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=55332

This may help you. It's the very first sticky in this Beginner Tech forum. If you plan on being a regular here, you may want to become savvy at using the search tool found on every forum page. When in doubt, check all stickies because your questions, most likely, have been about a hundred other members' questions in the past.