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Old 03-09-2015, 05:19 AM   #1
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Hey guys / gals. My names Craig (Zombine), long time member on www.nzhondas.com.

I currently own a DC2 integra which is in the process of a long build.




And a CB7 accord, which is 99% factory. Nearly fully optioned from new, and bought by my grandfather. Only mods at this stage are a nardi wheel, and some sounds to keep me entertained - It's my daily driver.




The CB has an F22Z1, an auto gearbox, leather interior, ABS brakes, the lot. Only thing that wasnt optioned from the factory was the sunroof, as my grandmother had rust issues on her CA accord and they didn't trust them.

After getting bored with the auto gearbox, I decided to swap it to a manual (Which is why I'm here, getting info I need for the swap ), And decided, Why not drop an H22A in at the same time.

Here in NZ we have an abundance of available parts for Hondas, And have collected these bits so far:

Blacktop H22A closed deck shortblock
Complete Euro R head incl cams, intake manifold, TB etc.
Euro R T2W4 Gearbox
Manual H series shift cables
H22A flywheel
And a few other bits and pieces.

As I work at the local Honda dealership as a technician, Getting parts for cheap is not a problem, Have stripped the oil pump I got with the blacktop shortblock, and its perfect, So am reassembling it with all new o rings and seals.

As the car is an auto, from searching here I have come to the conclusion I'll need a CD accord manual gearbox mount, or a BB1/BB4 prelude manual gearbox mount.

What about the rear/front/cambelt side mounts, Will they swap over from the F22 to the H22? Don't want to run aftermarket mounts as I don't want the car rattling :P

Anyway thats enough for now, It's midnight here and I need sleep!

Thanks for reading

Oh and if anyone is interested, Heres a link to the build thread on my integra on nzhondas

https://nzhondas.com/build-threads/9...ears-here.html

Thanks again!

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Old 03-09-2015, 09:45 AM   #2
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Wow, that thing is incredibly clean! Looks new!

If you want to do the manual transmission conversion properly, you have two options. First is to cut the transmission mount bracket out of a manual CB and weld it in place of your auto mount bracket. That can be a pain, for obvious reasons. Second would be to purchase a conversion mount. I believe Innovative still makes them. ESP (ExplicitSpeedPerformance) used to make them, but they are out of business at the moment (temporarily, we hope.) You may still be able to find a used mount for sale if you look.

The CD or Prelude mounts don't really work properly. They're close, but you still run the risk of damaging an axle.


All other mounts from the CB can be used. You'll find more H22A swap info in the "sticky" threads at the top of the Swaps section of this site.
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Old 03-09-2015, 11:20 AM   #3
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That cb is super fresh!

Ive been on that forum before a few times as it has come up in sesrch results.

Hope you get on fine with the H swap. The cars too good for a daily!
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Old 03-10-2015, 12:52 AM   #4
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Thanks guys

I'm sure I'll find all the info I need here for the swap.

Heres some more pics


Blacktop block freshly acid dipped and honed.



Euro R box after I rebuilt it at work and gave it a massive cleanup - Was filthy before hand.



Euro R head after being stripped down and acid dipped, Has had casting marks removed from runners, Valves will be recut and complete head reassembled with new spring LMA's and valve stem seals.



Euro R intake manifold, This has since been stripped down, and has been acid dipped so its sparkling clean inside and out. Planning on getting a Rosko racing IACV adaptor (unless people know these wont fit in the cb?)



The Euro R head when I got it, Filthy!



Nardi wheel the day I installed it (Used to be in my DC2 :P)

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Old 03-10-2015, 03:27 AM   #5
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Clean cb man, I'm looking forward to seeing where you take this thing!
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Old 03-10-2015, 05:21 AM   #6
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Welcome to the Forum!
Clean Integra and CB7. I'm waiting on my Woodgrain Nardi wheel looks dope on a CB7
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Old 03-19-2015, 01:33 AM   #7
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Thanks guys

Went to a local place, Where its dead cars, you go around and pick off the parts you want and buy them for dirt cheap. its called pick a part.

Got myself a Prelude shifter unit:



And a CD accord manual gearbox mount, If I have to drill the mount off and move it I'll do that. Don't want to run an aftermarket mount as I want it to look and feel stock. strictly no vibrations.


So now that I have a shifter unit, cables, gearbox, flywheel all sorted, just need a clutch, pedal assemblies, cmc, clutch slave cylinder, and axles I'm thinking of doing the manual conversion now and dropping the h22a in when its built.

So one more question to you fine people, What clutch/brake pedals will work? not sure if relavent as the RHD thing over here. Hoping that BB1/4 prelude work as manual cb accords at these pickaparts is quite hard to come by.

And what axles to run? BB1/4 CD5/6 manual ones all I need?

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Old 03-19-2015, 01:45 AM   #8
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I don't think I've ever heard of anyone using a CD shifter in a CB7, it's usually the BB4 shifter.
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Old 03-19-2015, 02:24 AM   #9
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That is a BB1/4 shifter
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Old 03-19-2015, 02:40 AM   #10
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Wow... Totally read that wrong the first time, not sure what I was reading...
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My friend used a CD shifter. It's nearly identical to the CB shifter.

Using the CD mount isn't the best idea for the conversion. It supposedly works, but it's not correct. It will still cause your axles to be an an odd angle. If you want it to look stock, and you want to do it right, find yourself a CB with a manual transmission, and cut off the transmission mount bracket. Weld it in place of your current auto mount bracket. It's not as easy as simply bolting in a mount, but it's the correct way to do it, and the only way (besides the very non-stock-looking aftermarket mounts) to ensure everything sits as it should. Fortunately, from the look of things, you don't seem to have a problem with doing things the right way
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Old 03-19-2015, 10:24 AM   #12
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Beautiful ride, your family took damn good care of it! Looking forward top seeing that H swap happen
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Old 03-19-2015, 08:49 PM   #13
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Hey Man welcome to the forum.

Car looks clean, what dealership are you working at?
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Old 03-19-2015, 11:56 PM   #14
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Old 03-31-2015, 11:53 PM   #15
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Is that leather I see?
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Old 04-02-2015, 12:56 AM   #17
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Sure is Leather.

Had a few more bits turn up that were ex japan.




Included here is an LMA spring for the euro R head as one had been pinched out of it before I got it, New valve stem seals, All the seals related to the oil pump, Crank seal, front balance shaft seal, dipstick o ring, rear balance shaft plate o ring, Axle seals for the T2W4 box, And theres some more bits floating around too.

Have decided to get an Innovative mounts adaptor mount as the Manual mount bracket is NLA Oh well will make the job alot easier.

I still dont know what axles I'll get away with? Do I HAVE to run CB manual axles and intermediate shaft or can I use BB1/4 or CD5/6 manual axles?
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Yes, the CB Accord axles are what you need to run. Why is this a perceived issue?
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Not an issue, manual CB's are a little bit few and far between here compared to auto ones. I can still get the axles though.
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And a CB7 accord, which is 99% factory. Nearly fully optioned from new, and bought by my grandfather. Only mods at this stage are a nardi wheel, and some sounds to keep me entertained - It's my daily driver.




The CB has an F22Z1, an auto gearbox, leather interior, ABS brakes, the lot. Only thing that wasnt optioned from the factory was the sunroof, as my grandmother had rust issues on her CA accord and they didn't trust them.
The Accord's condition is Fantastic!! Very original!!

Correct me if I am wrong but your CB seems to be made in NZ when the country still had a car manufacturing industry.

The engine number seems to be for the NZDM.

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After getting bored with the auto gearbox, I decided to swap it to a manual (Which is why I'm here, getting info I need for the swap ), And decided, Why not drop an H22A in at the same time.
Noooo, I would have kept her original. More stunning to see a 25 year old car look like a 7 year old car factory fresh in my view, but it is your car and I have always been more an original oem person.

Great choice of mod upgrade though
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