car is hard to start in the morning.......

[upnleftu]

93 f22a ....only hard to start in the morning...after its started once, its fine the rest of the day...any ideas?

[OptimusPrimeSr]

lol, I was just about to come on here and post the same thing.

you should add more details...

my car cranks and starts, then slowly idles out. This morning was the first time I experienced this and I just got back home from a trip to Nashville (2 days roundtrip 550 mi). Nothing harsh, just constant highway speeds for about 8hrs. I'm going to check fluid levels after work, but my idle has (for a while now) been very steady at about 750rpms.

Is this a sign of an aging/dying fuel pump?

[adam2562]

mine does this too... only at a cold start it'll crank a few times too many before turning over, then the rest of the day or while its warm its fine turns over right away... im not worried bout it but if its an easy fix then i'll do it

[upnleftu]

i thought maybe it was an injector leaking over night...causing the hard start....hell i dont know..im not really worried about it either..the car runs fine overall....thanks.

[OptimusPrimeSr]

my car cranks and starts, then slowly idles out. This morning was the first time I experienced this and I just got back home from a trip to Nashville (2 days roundtrip 550 mi). Nothing harsh, just constant highway speeds for about 8hrs. I'm going to check fluid levels after work, but my idle has (for a while now) been very steady at about 750rpms.

Update/Bump -- Car has been having trouble consecutive mornings on the first start up. Today I cranked it up and it was on for about a second, then died. Rinse/Repeat about 4 times and I finally got it running.

What are my possible problems?
- fuel filter?
- fuel pump?
- ???





BUMMMMMMMMMMP

[OptimusPrimeSr]

sorry, upcoming work includes...


- seafoam
- oil change
fuel filter replacement (if necessary, although I'm not really excited about having to buy new tools).

[Otto]

I'm seeing a trend...

Personally I've had both the delayed start, and what appeared to be a tank of bad gas/water in the gas, causing the car it die while warming up/starting, and misfire every once and awhile. The stalling cleared up after a few tanks with ISO-Heet.
I spent about a month troubleshooting and testing every conceivable thing under the hood for the delayed start, replaced plugs and cap/rotor (need to be replaced anyways), and finally gave up and just lived with giving it a little throttle at startup. About a month after all that it fixed itself and has started great ever since. go fig.

[OptimusPrimeSr]

I'm seeing a trend...

Personally I've had both the delayed start, and what appeared to be a tank of bad gas/water in the gas, causing the car it die while warming up/starting, and misfire every one and awhile. The stalling cleared up after a few tanks with ISO-Heet.
I spent about a month troubleshooting and testing every conceivable thing under the hood for the delayed start, replaced plugs and cap/rotor (need to be replaced anyways), and finally gave up and just lived with giving it a little throttle at startup. About a month after all that it fixed itself and has started great ever since. go fig.

how many times did you have to use the iso-heet?

My plugs/wires/cap/rotor are all < 3 months old. Will check for misfire thought.

[Reason]

Did you check you battery? Could be draining faster than normal.

[ghostEx]

Mine f22a6 did the same thing. Replaced the coolant temp sensor now its like a half a crank before it startsv

[Otto]

That's a nice cheap fix ghostEx Optimus should check that, too. The igniter would be good to test, too.

I used two bottles of iso-heet over three tanks of gas (I also started keeping a bottle in the trunk). Also, I never got a CEL any time, even when it shut down in the middle of an intersection. I had to keep it at 3,000 RPMs to keep it running that time. I would've been screwed if it had an auto tranny. I felt so bad for the clutch.

[adam2562]

mine doesnt seem as bad as what u guys are explaing about yours... but i hope it doesnt end up that way..

[OptimusPrimeSr]

thanks everyone...

I will try the iso-heat and check the battery (i've been meaning to replace the connector for the negative terminal cable)

I'll look into the coolant temp sensor. How cheap are we talking? If its cheap enough, might as well just replace it.

[Otto]

The temp sensor shouldn't be more than $20 or $25 I would think. Just make sure you get the one that connects to the ECU, cause there's FOUR temp sensors in the block. I can't find any diagrams at Majestic Honda's site, though.

[AllinAccord]

Anyone have the part number for the correct coolant temp sensor to assist with cold starts in the morning?