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    H23A1 swap

    I was wondering about a H23A nonvtec swap. I see hmotorsonline sells a long block for $900. I figured I could reuse my F22A1 5 speed transmission.. it's not perfectly matched to an H23, but I figured it would be ok. From what I have been reading, I can use the stock motor mounts and axles from my car. Correct me if I am wrong.

    I have some questions about doing this swap in my '90 LX

    1. What clutch and flywheel would use?
    2. Can I use a stock H23A1 (I think it's a P14) ECU?
    3. I have never used a OBD conversion anything, so what do I need there?
    4. Will the Alternator, A/C, P/S and cruise control work with an H23A?
    5. The H23A1 uses a manual TB tensioner, yes?
    6. I have to reuse the F22A1 fuel rail?

    1990 Honda Accord LX Sedan, 205K, DD once again
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    wait what?u say h23a1 but ur talkin about the jdm h23 which is vtec....
    but yes everything bolts right in and works fine..p14 ecu is for the h23a1.and the fuel rails are the same.

    my new turbo build

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      #3
      I'm talking about this motor here:

      http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc...age&item=30030

      My Accord is OBD-0, correct?
      Last edited by The_Head; 12-22-2010, 11:33 PM.

      1990 Honda Accord LX Sedan, 205K, DD once again

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        #4
        Your Accord is OBD-1.
        IMO, it's not worth it for the performance increase.
        You might as well get a Bisimoto header and make 30 or so more WHP.
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          #5
          Originally posted by CB7Nub View Post
          Your Accord is OBD-1.
          IMO, it's not worth it for the performance increase.
          You might as well get a Bisimoto header and make 30 or so more WHP.
          yes obd-1 and that motor is a little expensive..u could find one easy for like 5 or 600.

          i kinda agree with him...but it is ur car...on that motor u would need to use ur f22a fuel rail.

          ur accord clutch and flywheel will be just fine.

          my new turbo build

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            90-91 Accords are OBD1? Are you guys certain? 90-91 uses different distributor than 92-93, so I am wondering.

            1990 Honda Accord LX Sedan, 205K, DD once again

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              Originally posted by The_Head View Post
              90-91 Accords are OBD1? Are you guys certain? 90-91 uses different distributor than 92-93, so I am wondering.
              Yes certain...Ive done been through this with DEEV.Its not like a civic/sol/teg where anything before 92 was obd0.

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                Just to let you know bro. A hundred dollars more, you got yourself an H22 if your planning to order from Hmotors.

                The H23 is way over-priced IMO.
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                  Well, my aim was to reuse the F22A tranny. If I went H22, I would want an H22 tranny. I don't think an H22 with F22 tranny would be very much fun to drive?

                  To keep the comparison fair, a H22 engine and tranny from the same place would be $1700. Would an F22B (JDM) be a better value than the H23A that I linked to?

                  It is good to know my car is OBD1 and would not require much wiring work.

                  1990 Honda Accord LX Sedan, 205K, DD once again

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                    #10
                    You can get a DOHC F22b from ebay for 400. And it's complete, not a long block.

                    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda...item2e927a2711

                    Hell you can even get a h22a for 750.

                    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/92-95...item3f05ccde70

                    I, like others, think that h23 is a little over priced.

                    Even the DOHC f20b on hmotors is 850. And it's complete, but you'd have to shell out like 150 for the ECU IIRC

                    Look around on ebay, some good deals floating around, though I can't vouch for the reliability of the sellers.

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