need help on hub over swap

[autocrossaccord]

ok guys i am trying get parts so i can do my hub over rotor swap i find and 2.3 cl hub anyhwere i the only thing i can think of is can i use the spindle and hub off the 92-96 prelude and if so what parts do i need .

[pwrusr]

You must mean the rotor over hub swap.
A copy paste from the accordinglydone message board:

Ok folks, upon looking at tons of info of brakes, and remembering the headaches i got just trying to find out one bit of information, i have created this thread....hopefully for simplicity.

this is how it's going to work. I want you people that have done brake upgrades (rotor over hub, larger rotors, better calipers, etc.) to post DESCRIPTIVELY what you have. Part numbers would be awesome.

As replies come in, I will keep this thread as clean as possible, and hopefully it will become a very good reference.

Parts that are proven the same:
4th gen front knuckle - 5th gen front knuckle - 98 CL 4 cyl front knuckle
4th/5th gen front wheel bearings - 98-99 Acura CL 2.3 front wheel bearings
98-02 Accord V6 front calipers - 98+ Integra Type R calipers
98-02 Accord V6 front rotors - 98+ Integra Type R front rotors
98-02 Accord V6 rear rotors - 98+ Integra Type R rear rotors

Parts that are not the same:
4th gen rear knuckle - 5th gen rear knuckle

SETUPS:
lightningd - 5th gen
4th gen front knuckle
5th gen wheel bearings
98 2.3 4cyl CL hubs (Acura P/N: 44600-SY8-A00) (NOTE: comes with studs)
98 2.3 4cyl CL 10" Brembo Blank rotors.
5th gen calipers
Axxis Ultimate Brake pads
ATE SuperBlue DOT 4 Brake Fluid

zebro racing
Brembo OEM size cross drilled rotors
Steel braided lines

kapao818 - ??? gen
Stainless Steel Lines
Motul RB600 DOT Brake Fluid
Brembo Blanks
EBC Greenstuff Pads

Gennady - 4th gen Prelude Si 4WS
93 Prelude VTEC 11.1" Rotors
94 Legend GS 2-piston Calipers
93 Prelude VTEC 23T Caliper Brackets
93 Prelude VTEC 1" Master Cylinder

aero3685 - 4th gen
99 Acura CL 2.3 Hub
99 Acura CL 2.3 Rotors
99 Acura CL 2.3 Bearings
91 Accord Calipers
91 Accord Pads

Chris - 5th gen EX
5 lug conversion
94-95 Acura Legend dual-piston front calipers
94-97 Honda Accord rear calipers
98+ Integra Type-R front and rear rotors

GZERO - 5th gen
95-97 Accord V6 Rotors (11.1")
95-97 Accord V6 Calipers (came refurbished with brackets)
95 Accord Wheel Bearings



Here is a document created by Chris:
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Single-piston brake upgrade:
OEM Honda front calipers from 95-02 Accord V6/wagon, 93+ Prelude VTEC, or 98+ ITR
OEM Honda 25T brackets
rotors for 95-97 Accord V6/wagon


Dual-piston brake upgrade:
OEM Honda front calipers from 94-95 Legend GS Sedan
OEM Honda 25T brackets, 28T with caliper may work too
rotors for 95-97 Accord V6/wagon


simple rotor-over-hub conversion:
OEM Acura 98-99 2.3 CL front hubs
rotors for 98-99 2.3 CL
pads - any options
Optional 94-97 Accord front wheel bearings


Single-piston brake upgrade with rotor-over-hub conversion:
OEM Acura 98-99 2.3 CL front hubs
OEM Honda front calipers from 95-02 Accord V6/wagon, 93+ Prelude VTEC, or 98+ ITR
OEM Honda 23T brackets
rotors for 98-99 Acura 3.0 CL or 93-96 Prelude VTEC
pads - any options
Optional 94-97 Accord front wheel bearings


Dual-piston brake upgrade with rotor-over-hub conversion:
OEM Acura 98-99 2.3 CL front hubs
OEM Honda front calipers from 94-95 Legend GS Sedan
OEM Honda 23T brackets
rotors for 98-99 Acura 3.0 CL or 93-96 Prelude VTEC
pads - any options
Optional 94-97 Accord front wheel bearings


Single-piston brake upgrade with 5-lug conversion:
OEM Honda 95-97 Odyssey front hubs
OEM Honda 95-97 Accord V6/Odyssey front wheel bearings
OEM Honda 95-97 Accord V6/Odyssey front knuckles
OEM Honda front calipers from 95-02 Accord V6/wagon, 93+ Prelude VTEC, or 98+ ITR
OEM Honda 23T brackets
OEM Honda 97+ Prelude rear hub/bearing assembly
front and rear rotors for 98+ ITR (rear is also 98+ Accord V6)


Dual-piston brake upgrade with 5-lug conversion:OEM Honda 95-97 Odyssey front hubs
OEM Honda 95-97 Accord V6/Odyssey front wheel bearings
OEM Honda 95-97 Accord V6/Odyssey front knuckles
OEM Honda front calipers from 94-95 Legend GS Sedan
OEM Honda 23T brackets
OEM Honda 97+ Prelude rear hub/bearing assembly
front and rear rotors for 98+ ITR (rear is also 98+ Accord V6)
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[GrayCar]

What the heck are the brackets? I'm lost on that one.

[GrayCar]

Forget it, figured it out.

Does anybody know what the stock CB7 brackets are?

[aero]

Forget it, figured it out.

Does anybody know what the stock CB7 brackets are?

not sure what they are, but they arent the 23t

[arrozburner]

the brackets are the things that hold the caliper to the car

[GrayCar]

Yes, figured it out.

I'm planning on doing the rotor-over-hub and bumping up the rotor also.

What sucks is I just pu tnew calipers on the front, if I had known this as so easy I would have done it to begin with. Oh well.

I swear when I bought my rebuilt calipers they came with the bracket... I'll have to grab a set and see.

[phatdoughnut]

yes rebuildt calipers come with calipers, take yours back and order some others..

[GrayCar]

I'm going to use them for the core charge, unless somebody wants to buy them for more than $50...

[ACC0RD22]

ok, im going to do a rotor over hub swap on my CD5 tommorow, you just have the new hub pressed into the old knuckle right? i also need to know if the lug studs are easy to acess because i have one stripped one and one broken one on the same wheel, its the reason im doing the hub swap in the first place

[Jodster]

I'm thinking about doing the hub over rotor swap and I have some questions.

I want to make sure about all the parts I will need.

98-99 CL 2.3L Hub, 10 inch Rotor, and Hub Bearing.

Thats it right? I've got a 90 accord LX 4-door 5-speed. I can use my stock calipers and caliper brackets right?

[Blk EX Coupe]

I'm thinking about doing the hub over rotor swap and I have some questions.

I want to make sure about all the parts I will need.

98-99 CL 2.3L Hub, 10 inch Rotor, and Hub Bearing.

Thats it right? I've got a 90 accord LX 4-door 5-speed. I can use my stock calipers and caliper brackets right?

yes, you can use the stock caliper and bracket.

[aero]

If anyone needs a set of akebono calipers for a core... lemme know. I have a set, was going to use as a core for prelude vtec calipers but found brand new honda calipers online for mucho cheap. I'll sell these for just shipping plus like 5 for gas and time. Of course, the closer you are, the cheaper it is. I know it'll be like 30 bux just for shipping to cali.

edit, and yeah, cl 2.3 rotors are same size as stock, so accord calipers will work.

[ACC0RD22]

yea i performed this conversion today, its almost imperitive you have the lower ball joint tool to separate the lower and upper ball joints, i broke the grease boot on the lowers, so i had to buy new ones . . . another 55 dollars to tack onto the already high project cost. other than that, i bent the dust shields alot so they rub against my rotors, ill be fixing that tomorrow, and the brakes are always partially engaged for some reason . . . which will also be fixed tommorow, meh, all in all, it wasnt so bad, thankfully i had a press so i didnt have to hammer anything out and risk fucking up the bearings

[EG-Si hatch]

maybe im an idiot... but i bought the cl hubs from my job, and they seem to come with wheel bearings already? i tried searching for just the hub and just the bearing, but i got the same part number for both so do the hubs come with the bearing set in them already? they are just after market regular hubs that u buy at advanced auto or auto zone. also my hubs dint bring studs, but i just bought a brand new set of accord studs with nuts, can i used these on cl hubs?