whats the cheapest but reliable method of lowering my car? - Page 2

HondaFan81 · 10-20-2009, 08:56 AM

I would suggest the Tokico HP shock & spring kit as the cheapest lowering, but reliable setup. It is perfect for daily-driver, but does retain the stock like look with some lowering.

This Tokico HP kit lasted me 45-50K miles with NO problems. Then, I made the stupid decision to go with a lower spring H&R sport and it took out the Tokico HP shocks another 15K miles later.

It will lower the front end 0.75 inches (actual) and rear 1.0 - 1.25 inches (actual). It will NOT require a camber kit in the front or rear, so it save you OVERALL expenses there. Other lowering kits you have to add this expense, so it will be more than you think.

You just should pay for an alignment, which is a given with ANY lowering kit. If you have other suspension maintenance to do, I suggest doing that with the lowering kit and paying for ONE alignment after all is done.

HondaFan81 · 10-20-2009, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by nate'sCB7

tokico HP shocks and H&R Sport springs
FR-1.75 RR-1.5

Sorry, but the H&R sport springs are too aggressive for these shocks, I know from experience.

In 15-20K miles, they blew out my Tokico HP shocks. I should have kept the Tokico red HP springs on them, but wanted to go lower (bad choice).

HondaFan81 · 10-20-2009, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 90ACCORDLXGUY

If your OEM struts aren't blown than you could probably get some Neuspeed Sport springs and put them on your struts.

I have this setup on my car for a 1.5 years and have yet to blow a strut. The springs costed $210 shipped to my front door.

1 year is not enough experience, that is 15-20K at most.

People make statements prematurely, just wait until you hit the 50-60K mark and tell us how your shocks are then (if you keep your setup/car that long). Neuspeed sports springs will blow your stock shocks, period! They are not designed to go together.

OEM shocks mated with OEM springs last a LONG time, like 75-100K miles. That is called reliable.

blazenem · 10-20-2009, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Warudakumi

E-bay springs are not the ideal springs to buy if you wanna go "cheap" the ride quality is so shitty that they will wear out ur struts in no time. Then sooner or later you will get the annoying BANG and Clump sounds when u go over the slightest potholes or driveways.

If you wanna go cheap, I suggest Neuspeed or Eibach Sportline springs. Before the whole coilover craze went down and "Skunk2" and "Ground Controls" were the fad, I've paid close to $380 Eibach Sportlines. Now they can be had for $200-$240ish depending where u buy them from. I've even seen brand new sets on e-bay go for under $200 mark.

I've been running these since my first CB7. The ride is so smooth and feels factory soft that you won't even know ur car is lowered. (matched up with good struts of course) My KYB GR2s feel just fine in them. Don't buy some autozone/pepboy special monroe struts.

IF I had to do the E-bay coil or spring setup thing, the only ones I would probably trust is "DropZoNe" coz I have 2 friends that run them on their civics and their rides don't feel bad at all...however I wouldn't know how the same setup would feel in a much heavier CB7. Ask around the board as I think some members here have DropZone setups.

Megan Racing started as a cheap ebay brand (still considered ebay brand to some) but is actually a good brand from what i've been seeing and hearing. Their Full coilover setups are even more expensive than Omni setups so they must be doing something right?

listen to the man lol

deevergote · 10-20-2009, 09:27 AM

I agree with the Tokico HP with the matching Tokico springs. In that case, the shocks are just fine, since they are made to work with those springs.

I've known of GR2s that have lasted over 30,000 miles with very low drops (to the point of impracticality). They are still stock replacements, and shouldn't be relied on to do that... but they do seem to work.

If your stock suspension is still in good condition, and doesn't NEED to be replaced... then I suggest you save for a quality suspension, and not just the cheapest option. I have Koni Sport (yellow) shocks, and H&R Race springs on my car. I couldn't be happier. I got the setup used for $300 from a friend (so I knew the condition beforehand). Brand new, that setup will cost about $800... plus my $300 TASauto upper control arms. I'll be getting the TAS rear camber kit soon as well, as my last set of tires cupped in the rear... lesson learned.

gloryaccordy · 10-20-2009, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JACCORD01

whats the cheapest but reliable method of lowering my car .. i just want it lowered like 1-1.5", i cant afford to have it dropped/slammed due to shitty road conditions (pot holes, tons of bumps, raised driveway, winter etc..

If you can't afford to lower it, you can't lower it.

This thread is like if someone asked 'what is the cheapest but safest way to get milk', followed by a post saying you don't have any money for it but want some.

Save up the cash, then buy a decent set of springs and at the minimum some GR2s or HPs.

HardInThePaint · 10-20-2009, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by JACCORD01

whats the cheapest but reliable method of lowering my car .. i just want it lowered like 1-1.5"

Just leave your car like it is and just tell people your shit is dropped. An inch ain't shit, you can't tell the difference anyways.

jamaicancb3 · 10-20-2009, 12:42 PM

I would say KYB or gr2....but i've heard people disputing the kyb's for some reason. i would have go try and find that thread, don't know how true it is for those reasons though

deevergote · 10-20-2009, 01:10 PM

KYB makes the GR2.

KYB does not make a shock for our cars that is made for more than a 1.5" drop.

gloryaccordy · 10-20-2009, 01:18 PM

AGXs will blow the fuck up.

A somewhat budget but respectable setup ppl have been running on Civics/Integras is a Neuspeed/H&R Sport type spring with the new Koni STR.Ts. I'm going back and forth between getting them + running 300/200# springs and selling my H&R sports or just being a man and getting Koni Yellow SP3s.

plee3 · 10-20-2009, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by deevergote

Eibach, Neuspeed, H&R, Tein... all good brands. You would be better off buying a used set of name brand springs than a brand new set of knockoff no-name crap from ebay.

^^^This is your best bet for a cheap and safe drop^^^

J3wman · 10-20-2009, 03:26 PM

AND THEN GOD GRANTED THE GIFT OF SEARCH BAR.....

megan lowering springs 2" drop cheap and low

jamaicancb3 · 10-20-2009, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by deevergote

KYB makes the GR2.

KYB does not make a shock for our cars that is made for more than a 1.5" drop.

oh really

...my bad, sounded really newbish, and here it was i remember having a convo with some guys and they said the samething i said.....oh well. I CAN GO RUB IT IN THEIR FACES NOW

J3wman · 10-20-2009, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GEE24

i got cut springs on my hatch and im doing fine with it.. and its been about 2 months ive been riding fine...

this is what happens with cut springs http://videos.streetfire.net/video/T...ver_162619.htm

deevergote · 10-20-2009, 08:18 PM

Umm... improperly balanced suspension, blown shocks (if you so cheap that you have to cut your springs, there's a very good chance that you're running on 18 year old shocks) and "performance driving"... as people like to do with "modified" suspensions... WILL lead to that.

If I see you telling people on my forum that cut springs are fine, you'll find yourself banned VERY quickly. I don't want some naive 17 year old kid killing himself or friends due to bad advice!

Father Time · 10-20-2009, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GEE24

i got cut springs on my hatch and im doing fine with it.. and its been about 2 months ive been riding fine...

A whole 2 months? Damn, that speaks VOLUMES for longevity, reliabilty, and safety.

Father Time · 10-20-2009, 11:28 PM

Wow, did you miss the point. Oh well.

Honda Enoch · 10-21-2009, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warudakumi

E-bay springs are not the ideal springs to buy if you wanna go "cheap" the ride quality is so shitty that they will wear out ur struts in no time. Then sooner or later you will get the annoying BANG and Clump sounds when u go over the slightest potholes or driveways.

I had e-bay coilovers on my CB7 and had no problem with them for 2 years. they were on stock shocks.

JACCORD01 · 10-21-2009, 01:25 AM

Well i wouldn't say im on a "budget" for say, just not really looking into paying 1200$ for a pair of coilovers. unless its actually worth it 110%..

However, i do appreciate all the responses, some quite some varieties here

J3wman · 10-21-2009, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GEE24

im doing fine with it with no problems involved. so im good.

one day you will take your car to get aligned, once upon the lift the techs will look at your car they will look and see cut springs then they will LAUGH THEIR DICKS OFF all of this assuming that your car doesnt careen off the next cloverleaf in a towering inferno because your cars spring rate is designed for springs that are a certain height, which have now been distastefully modified and are not long enough to keep your car from bottoming out. Dont bother arguing that you will not have problems with cut springs because either me or deev will destroy your argument with a thing called physics.

10-20-2009, 08:56 AM	#21
HondaFan81 Most Interesting Man Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 7,731	I would suggest the Tokico HP shock & spring kit as the cheapest lowering, but reliable setup. It is perfect for daily-driver, but does retain the stock like look with some lowering. This Tokico HP kit lasted me 45-50K miles with NO problems. Then, I made the stupid decision to go with a lower spring H&R sport and it took out the Tokico HP shocks another 15K miles later. It will lower the front end 0.75 inches (actual) and rear 1.0 - 1.25 inches (actual). It will NOT require a camber kit in the front or rear, so it save you OVERALL expenses there. Other lowering kits you have to add this expense, so it will be more than you think. You just should pay for an alignment, which is a given with ANY lowering kit. If you have other suspension maintenance to do, I suggest doing that with the lowering kit and paying for ONE alignment after all is done. __________________ *Stay thirsty my friends...* HondaFan81 For Sale Parts (EVERYTHING HAS PHOTOS!!) Last edited by HondaFan81; 10-20-2009 at 08:59 AM.

10-20-2009, 01:18 PM	#30
gloryaccordy Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The doomship! Posts: 7,577	AGXs will blow the fuck up. A somewhat budget but respectable setup ppl have been running on Civics/Integras is a Neuspeed/H&R Sport type spring with the new Koni STR.Ts. I'm going back and forth between getting them + running 300/200# springs and selling my H&R sports or just being a man and getting Koni Yellow SP3s. __________________ Mega part out in Brooklyn NY- lots of REALLY GOOD PARTS!!!

10-20-2009, 11:28 PM	#37
Father Time NW Chat Nazi Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 3,907	Wow, did you miss the point. Oh well. __________________ The planning starts.........

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10-20-2009, 09:27 AM	#25
deevergote Owner Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: piitburg Posts: 24,841	I agree with the Tokico HP with the matching Tokico springs. In that case, the shocks are just fine, since they are made to work with those springs. I've known of GR2s that have lasted over 30,000 miles with very low drops (to the point of impracticality). They are still stock replacements, and shouldn't be relied on to do that... but they do seem to work. If your stock suspension is still in good condition, and doesn't NEED to be replaced... then I suggest you save for a quality suspension, and not just the cheapest option. I have Koni Sport (yellow) shocks, and H&R Race springs on my car. I couldn't be happier. I got the setup used for $300 from a friend (so I knew the condition beforehand). Brand new, that setup will cost about $800... plus my $300 TASauto upper control arms. I'll be getting the TAS rear camber kit soon as well, as my last set of tires cupped in the rear... lesson learned.

10-20-2009, 12:42 PM	#28
jamaicancb3 CB7tuner Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Jamaica: St. Andrew, Barbican Posts: 89	I would say KYB or gr2....but i've heard people disputing the kyb's for some reason. i would have go try and find that thread, don't know how true it is for those reasons though

10-20-2009, 01:10 PM	#29
deevergote Owner Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: piitburg Posts: 24,841	KYB makes the GR2. KYB does not make a shock for our cars that is made for more than a 1.5" drop.

10-20-2009, 08:18 PM	#35
deevergote Owner Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: piitburg Posts: 24,841	Umm... improperly balanced suspension, blown shocks (if you so cheap that you have to cut your springs, there's a very good chance that you're running on 18 year old shocks) and "performance driving"... as people like to do with "modified" suspensions... WILL lead to that. If I see you telling people on my forum that cut springs are fine, you'll find yourself banned VERY quickly. I don't want some naive 17 year old kid killing himself or friends due to bad advice!

10-21-2009, 01:25 AM	#39
JACCORD01 CB7tuner Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 181	Well i wouldn't say im on a "budget" for say, just not really looking into paying 1200$ for a pair of coilovers. unless its actually worth it 110%.. However, i do appreciate all the responses, some quite some varieties here