2 Step System??????

[JDMDaniel240]

Hey its me again I apologize for bugging you guys with all these got dam question but i am new at this game with cars .............................................

Well any i have 1 question for you guys what in the world is a 2 step system. honestly idk but it sounds sick as fuck and if is cheap thing then i am buying it!!!!!!!

Please watch Video!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfdHP...yer_detailpage

['93CB7Ex]

its meant for high power cars to help launch at the track.

[mndude07]

It is not cheap, and it is a two step rev limiter.

[mcdizzle]

that sounds like shit to be honest.

if you want to hear a good 2 step listen to a turbo'd car. unless your making a lot of power 2-step isnt really necessary.

[JDMDaniel240]

its meant for high power cars to help launch at the track.

Then how come some cars crackle and spit fire balls when they hit the rev limiter with these sit up and do you have any idea what companies have these and which ones are design for a cb7 ????? thanks

[mndude07]

That guy needs to make the cut harder. Its bouncing all over the place.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGTWpP874yU

[JDMDaniel240]

So Basically this ecu set up is more for turbo'd Engines or what ever

[F20A CB7]

Bro, from wat I've read and understand there r 2 types of 2 steps.


1 ran off the ecu, ull need a chippable ecu, like a p06.. From a eg civic.

And the other if thru msd igntion system, which that there starts 2 get expensive, something that cost so much for a dd that is not modified.


Ya it sounds cool and all, I don't have no crazy mods but imagine pullin up 2 some 1 with a your quiet muffler, and open the exhuast cut out valve with a 2 step, that will b funny shit.

2 step is for accurate lauching, but my foot can hold the rpms just fine, if I can afford a 2step I would get 1, only iffff I at least had modded head or cam, something that will give me known power!

Do wat u want friend. Everyone on here has there own answers.

[deevergote]

Bro, from wat I've read and understand there r 2 types of 2 steps.


1 ran off the ecu, ull need a chippable ecu, like a p06.. From a eg civic.

And the other if thru msd igntion system, which that there starts 2 get expensive, something that cost so much for a dd that is not modified.


Ya it sounds cool and all, I don't have no crazy mods but imagine pullin up 2 some 1 with a your quiet muffler, and open the exhuast cut out valve with a 2 step, that will b funny shit.

2 step is for accurate lauching, but my foot can hold the rpms just fine, if I can afford a 2step I would get 1, only iffff I at least had modded head or cam, something that will give me known power!

Do wat u want friend. Everyone on here has there own answers.

Yes. The easiest type is a fuel cut. Almost all engine management programs have one (my H22 was tuned with Uberdata, and I have it programmed on mine). I can hold my engine at 3500rpm at idle, launch, and then drive normally. HOWEVER, these fuel-cut types can be harmful, especially if overused. When the fuel cuts, your engine is running lean. That can lead to detonation, which can quickly destroy an engine.

The other type is the spark-cut. It cuts the spark, rather than the fuel. These systems are often external (MSD makes one), so they can get expensive to add just that one feature. (unlike the fuel cut, which does require a tunable ECU, and the tools and knowledge to tune it... but that encompasses far more than JUST the two-step feature!) A spark cut is a bit safer, since you're not igniting a lean mixture. The biggest threat here is overfueling, which could cause bogging, damage to the o2 sensor and catalytic converter, or in an extreme case: hydrolock (though if you're dumping enough fuel and bouncing off the spark-cut long enough to do that, you deserve what you get!)

I'm sure there are systems out there that integrate the two, and that would be ideal. Again, that would also be the most difficult and expensive.



If a car is spitting fireballs and making all sorts of backfire noises, that means 1 of two things... either they are tuned VERY poorly... or they are running an anti-lag system (do a search for that... lots of info on it, and it's for serious race-built turbo cars only... or for idiots that like to damage their expensive engine and turbo by showing off on the street...)

[h22sparkle]

It really doesnt matter if you have alot of hp to use a 2step its really a bandaid to help people who cant launch ,or wish to launch putting more power down to stay in boost. when they launch it also overtime messes up your turbo. Hmmm if you do have alot of power to put down and you want it to hold more effectively you need a chipped ecu or daul staged boost controller.

[JDMDaniel240]

Bro, from wat I've read and understand there r 2 types of 2 steps.


1 ran off the ecu, ull need a chippable ecu, like a p06.. From a eg civic.

And the other if thru msd igntion system, which that there starts 2 get expensive, something that cost so much for a dd that is not modified.


Ya it sounds cool and all, I don't have no crazy mods but imagine pullin up 2 some 1 with a your quiet muffler, and open the exhuast cut out valve with a 2 step, that will b funny shit.

2 step is for accurate lauching, but my foot can hold the rpms just fine, if I can afford a 2step I would get 1, only iffff I at least had modded head or cam, something that will give me known power!

Do wat u want friend. Everyone on here has there own answers.

Lol this is why i want one is just cause it will sound like a gun shot when i hit the rev limiter

[JDMDaniel240]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=Ppv3EMGlITY

This is an example I believe so with the Turbo Set up

[mndude07]

Its not a band-aid lol. It makes the car launch faster. A proper launch control system will integrate into the traction control system for a launch speed faster than you can even think about repeating manually.

[deevergote]

Exactly. The R35 GT-R has launch control built in (or it did... they may have removed it, or hidden it at least.) It makes for a MUCH faster launch, since it is properly set up for the vehicle... but it also puts a pretty good strain on all the parts... Then again, you don't set up a car for racing without expecting to abuse it!

[Kboers]

Yes. The easiest type is a fuel cut. Almost all engine management programs have one (my H22 was tuned with Uberdata, and I have it programmed on mine). I can hold my engine at 3500rpm at idle, launch, and then drive normally. HOWEVER, these fuel-cut types can be harmful, especially if overused. When the fuel cuts, your engine is running lean. That can lead to detonation, which can quickly destroy an engine.

The other type is the spark-cut. It cuts the spark, rather than the fuel. These systems are often external (MSD makes one), so they can get expensive to add just that one feature. (unlike the fuel cut, which does require a tunable ECU, and the tools and knowledge to tune it... but that encompasses far more than JUST the two-step feature!) A spark cut is a bit safer, since you're not igniting a lean mixture. The biggest threat here is overfueling, which could cause bogging, damage to the o2 sensor and catalytic converter, or in an extreme case: hydrolock (though if you're dumping enough fuel and bouncing off the spark-cut long enough to do that, you deserve what you get!)

I'm sure there are systems out there that integrate the two, and that would be ideal. Again, that would also be the most difficult and expensive.



If a car is spitting fireballs and making all sorts of backfire noises, that means 1 of two things... either they are tuned VERY poorly... or they are running an anti-lag system (do a search for that... lots of info on it, and it's for serious race-built turbo cars only... or for idiots that like to damage their expensive engine and turbo by showing off on the street...)

I was always told the fireballs are from the catalytic converter being removed and only a high flow exhaust was installed. The fireballs happened because the lag in fuel injection system when you put clutch in to shift which cause RPM's to drop and it feeds increased amount of fuel but it doesn't all get burned and some is spit out exhaust as fireball.