Any mods that can or should be done to stock before bolt ons or any upgrades ?????

[acc90cb7]

Im New To The Cb7 Game And Was Wondering If There Is Anything That Can Or Should Be Done To My Stock F22a1 To Help Before I Add Any Bolt Ons Or Mods ??? Help ??

[Kboers]

you can always get the intake manifold from an f22a6 cheap or the exhaust manifold from an ex. Those are two common mods. There's always intakes and exhausts that are cheap and easy to install. Just look around the forum a bit before you ask basic questions like this. Try looking at some members rides for ideas

[deevergote]

1st, don't type in all capital letters. It will only get your thread deleted.


Before modifying your engine, you'll want to replace all wear items... ignition components (plus, wires, cap, rotor... no need to "upgrade" anything... stick with OEM parts, as they're best), filters, gaskets, seals. If there are any oil leaks, fix them. If your check engine light is on, pull the code and fix the problem. Replace all fluids (coolant, engine oil, transmission fluid... use Honda fluid in the transmission, nothing else.) Do a compression test to make sure the engine is healthy.

Then look to your brakes, tires, and suspension. If you want to modify your engine, be sure the things that put the power to the ground (and keep you in control of your vehicle) are in good condition. If your shocks are original, they are probably already blown... and should be replaced.

[deevergote]

you can always get the intake manifold from an f22a6 cheap or the exhaust manifold from an ex. Those are two common mods. There's always intakes and exhausts that are cheap and easy to install. Just look around the forum a bit before you ask basic questions like this. Try looking at some members rides for ideas

He's asking what to do BEFORE modifying the engine. A very smart way to approach it, because most kids just throw performance parts at an ailing engine. A healthy stock engine will respond to mods much better, and it will be more reliable.

[Kboers]

He's asking what to do BEFORE modifying the engine. A very smart way to approach it, because most kids just throw performance parts at an ailing engine. A healthy stock engine will respond to mods much better, and it will be more reliable.

Ahh my bad, should have read more closely what the question was. Well in addition to what deevergote said, one thing I've been working on is replacing bushings throughout the suspension. It makes your car more solid feeling and less "tinny" sounding when you drive over bumps. Since you're from ohio too, check that brake lines and fuel lines aren't rusted and definitely replace those before anything.


Just out of curiosity, what part of Ohio are you from?

[acc90cb7]

thanks for the info guys........ yeah i'm starting with a bone stock 1990 lx 4dr 5spd with 160xxx miles with the f22a1 and know some but not much of the f series engine i been looking thru the forums for like a week and seen many of the upgrades done and suggested... another question i got which is better for the money..... a6 exhaust manifold +p12 ecu+ram air intake and free/er muffler...or just go for the ...h23 intake+ a6 maniflod and pt6 ecu and a6 cam+ ram air intake free/er muffler..... i do not plan to turbo.. if that helps any
my bad on the caps deev....referring to the (addedhp:cost) ratio

[deevergote]

If you're using the A6 or H23 intake manifold, use the PT6 ECU. The P12 is really only best for the F22A1, with the A1 camshaft and intake manifold.

[acc90cb7]

and im from mansfield, ohio.... it central hour north columbus

[acc90cb7]

how much (approx.)hp gain would i be looking at adding if i was to do the following to my stock f22a1.....?
p12 ecu + ram air intake + a4 header + more free flowing muffler= ? hp gain?
looking for a approx number assuming that the motor produces the 125hp rating
anyone??

[deevergote]

Theoretically, 20-25hp more. Realistically... 10-15. Less, depending on the condition of your motor (which is very likely not making the full 125hp anymore either.)

You really can't say exactly how much horsepower a certain part is going to give you... let alone a combination of parts. It's not like a video game, where X part gives you 25hp.

[visualpoet]

If you're using the A6 or H23 intake manifold, use the PT6 ECU. The P12 is really only best for the F22A1, with the A1 camshaft and intake manifold.

Not necessarily. I don't think there have been any members that have compared the two ECUs with the A6/H23 IM set-up and shown the difference (other than for the butterflies), but I've been wrong before.
The p12 does great for my setup with the stage one cam and the a1 IM. After I do the IM swap, I'll need to get my hands on a pt6 and do some comparison runs between the two. Since I'm planning the butterfly delete, It's a toss up as to which map will run better for me. I'm predicting an insubstantial difference.

[deevergote]

My main reason for saying the P12 is no good for the A6/H23 IM is that it doesn't control the IAB, which means it would be controlled on vacuum alone. Many people say that's fine... I personally don't like it. If that's the best way to do it, that's the way Honda would have done it. With the A1 IM, the P12 remains the best option.

Honestly, yes... the difference is probably pretty meaningless. We're talking 10-15 crank horsepower, tops... That's really not even something you can feel!