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Car died for first time. Not starting, D4 lit when key is in

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    Car died for first time. Not starting, D4 lit when key is in

    Car died when I was shifting my auto transmission into a parking spot. Will not start. When I try to it sounds like it is getting ignition and maybe almost cranking fast? Battery and oil lights are on and the Drive 4 light is on when I turn the ignition? Any ideas? Timing belt?

    #2
    Sounds like timing belt. Remove the oil cap, rotate the engine by hand, see if the cam moves.
    Originally posted by Mishakol129
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      #3
      Originally posted by dj_ender View Post
      Sounds like timing belt. Remove the oil cap, rotate the engine by hand, see if the cam moves.
      Thanks, I'll go look. Is the D4 light something to worry about?

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        #4
        Not as much as a possible broke timing belt at the moment.

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          #5
          It appears the cam did not move. As the timing belt looks a bit time consuming, about how much would this cost at a shop or dealership?

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            #6
            A rough figure would be $500-600, give or take alittle. Unfortunately w/e engine you have (F22, H23, H22, etc) is an interference engine. When the belt snaps, the pistons can hit the valves that are left open. Your valves might be okay since you were revving low but you never know. Some have been very lucky, others haven't. Def. have the shop check the valvetrain too w/ a compression/leakdown test once a belt is on. Also, there's prob. some experienced members in your area too that could prob. help you out.

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              #7
              I got lucky when my timing belt failed. I put on another belt after lining everything back up and its still running great 45k miles later. I was able to do this myself for a grand total of $20 for a new belt.

              However if you did bend some valves, maybe poke a hole in a piston; then you will have wasted $600 by having a shop do it. See if you can find someone to help, or buy a haynes manual. It has a great walkthrough of how to replace the timing belt
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                #8
                Originally posted by Granite CB7 View Post
                A rough figure would be $500-600, give or take alittle. Unfortunately w/e engine you have (F22, H23, H22, etc) is an interference engine. When the belt snaps, the pistons can hit the valves that are left open. Your valves might be okay since you were revving low but you never know. Some have been very lucky, others haven't. Def. have the shop check the valvetrain too w/ a compression/leakdown test once a belt is on. Also, there's prob. some experienced members in your area too that could prob. help you out.
                Ehh, that's not good news. I'm starting to wonder if I should cut my losses with this car. Cat has gone bad, wiring harness is weird, now this.

                Anyway, I think my friend might have a leakdown tester so that is good.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Accrdwgnguy View Post
                  I got lucky when my timing belt failed. I put on another belt after lining everything back up and its still running great 45k miles later. I was able to do this myself for a grand total of $20 for a new belt.

                  However if you did bend some valves, maybe poke a hole in a piston; then you will have wasted $600 by having a shop do it. See if you can find someone to help, or buy a haynes manual. It has a great walkthrough of how to replace the timing belt
                  I see Hopefully, I will be that lucky. Is there any good way to go about seeing if they are bent before doing a timing belt?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by TylerTheTwin View Post
                    I see Hopefully, I will be that lucky. Is there any good way to go about seeing if they are bent before doing a timing belt?
                    You could pull the cam out to ensure the valves are all closed and then do a leakdown test.
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by TylerTheTwin View Post
                      I see Hopefully, I will be that lucky. Is there any good way to go about seeing if they are bent before doing a timing belt?
                      Originally posted by TylerTheTwin View Post
                      Anyway, I think my friend might have a leakdown tester so that is good.


                      Originally posted by Mishakol129
                      Do not disrespect my intelligence. I am the smartest person I know : )

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                        #12
                        Ah. Yeah. I guess it's been a long day

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                          #13
                          It happens.
                          Originally posted by Mishakol129
                          Do not disrespect my intelligence. I am the smartest person I know : )

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                            #14
                            Good news, friend has a tester.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by TylerTheTwin View Post
                              Good news, friend has a tester.
                              Good deal. So pull the valve cover, then the upper timing cover, then set the cam to tdc, then rotate the engine to tdc, use the timing window cover. No need to pull the cam, you may even be able to notice if a valve is bent visually, it's obvious when they are bent.
                              Originally posted by Mishakol129
                              Do not disrespect my intelligence. I am the smartest person I know : )

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