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!!HELP!!TURBO and Reliability??

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    #16
    Originally posted by F22HB
    Turbos are great but it seems like almost whatever you do, you endup lossing reliablility for power.
    If its cheap its not reliable.
    If its reliable its not fast.
    If its fast its not cheap...
    You're forgetting one important factor. Knowledge.

    If you know what you are doing, you can minimize costs considerably. If you know what you are doing, you can make parts last a long time. If you know what you are doing, you can be plenty fast with the right parts.

    A small turbo will create unnecessary heat. A larger turbo will make things safer. A small turbo will spool quickly, meaning that running off-boost when you want to conserve fuel isn't very easy. A small turbo is cheap. If you don't know any better (*knowledge*) you will buy the cheap small turbo, damage your engine, not go fast, and waste lots of fuel.

    The best thing to do before building a turbo kit is learn exactly what every part does. Learn why they do what they do. Learn the negative effects and positive effects, and what decisions can be made to reduce the negative.

    Compared to a high-revving NA engine, a properly designed turbo motor can be more reliable. Compared to a well cared-for stock engine, a turbo motor will probably have a shorter lifespan. However, I've known stock cheapie turbo cars (like my old beat to hell 87 Dodge Shadow) to go well over 130,000 miles with no major issues.


    Key points to remember:
    Engine condition (with stock internals, this is very important)
    Tuning!
    Proper fueling (injectors, pump, pressure, a/f ratio... that goes back to tuning)
    Turbo size
    Cooling system
    Intercooling system
    Exhaust size (you want to get that hot air out of there as quickly as you can!)
    Safeguard systems (Wastegate to protect your engine, and BOV to protect your turbo)






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      #17
      Originally posted by HondaB18
      What is your question? Browse around.

      Building NA is different from building it for forced induction. Two different things. You can't build a car for NA and all the sudden slap on a turbo to it if thats what your asking.
      Right now I drive my car to much to put a turbo on it. i wanted to get an idea of how much power i can get out the motor so I just wanted some examples

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        #18
        200whp 8psi 14b jdm f22b driven every day. Running for about 1 year 8 months boosted. no MAJOR problems. I have a conservative tune, and this weekend I drove about 600miles+, mostly highway. I have a lead foot, so i usually see boost on the highway.

        If it's cheap it's not reliable.-false. I have a dsm turbo kit. One of the cheapest ways to go.

        I have put a beating on my motor as well, twice now I've ran it with barely any oil, when I was away at college the oil wasn't changed for about 7 months. F series can hold up to a good amount of abuse
        Shift_BOOST

        BOOM!

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          #19
          Awesome. It's good to hear that!

          Still, I wouldn't classify such success as something to expect. It would be silly to hear that your motor hasn't had any problems and assume that mine will see similar results.

          Turbo introduces a new system to the car... Not only another bunch of parts that can break on you, but parts that can potentially toast your motor in the process.

          92ex has a stock-block DSM setup that's been running for the better part of 2 years. h22sparkle had a fully built turbo H22 and it lasted about 6 months. Quality, planning, and knowledge play a VERY large part... as does luck, in some cases!






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            #20
            Originally posted by 92ex
            200whp 8psi 14b jdm f22b driven every day. Running for about 1 year 8 months boosted. no MAJOR problems. I have a conservative tune, and this weekend I drove about 600miles+, mostly highway. I have a lead foot, so i usually see boost on the highway.

            If it's cheap it's not reliable.-false. I have a dsm turbo kit. One of the cheapest ways to go.

            I have put a beating on my motor as well, twice now I've ran it with barely any oil, when I was away at college the oil wasn't changed for about 7 months. F series can hold up to a good amount of abuse
            I was waiting for someone with a boosted car to chime in lol. But a proper tune and a big ol koyo aluminum as I have seen seem to do the job very well.

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