h22 cb7 Vs. F22B dohc cb7

[92ex]

i noticed the smoke, didn't know jdm ecus ran rich, or anywhere near that rich.

and what are you wowing. he has a stock ecu with simple mods, ecus should not need tuning to compensate for that simple of mods normally. and yes I know he has a h22 if that's what your wowing

[d112crzy]

nah dude, with those simple mods, a lot can be done. just take mine for example.

we have pretty much the same mods, except im tuned.

[KillerCam282]

what in the world do you need tuned? you have a stock ecu and simple mods

Jose told me that blackice is using the JDM Ecu. Those things are programmed to run rich as a safety. It also would maximize the performance of his setup.

[SMseagren83]

Jose told me that blackice is using the JDM Ecu. Those things are programmed to run rich as a safety. It also would maximize the performance of his setup.

because factory maps are the absolute "BEST" they can be? and this stock ECU running rich maximizes his performance?? with aftermarket upgrades?....even if they are bolt ons?.....im confused. isnt this what TUNING and adjusting the fuel/timing tables of a basemap is for?? joser or cory care to chime in?

[d112crzy]

joser or cory care to chime in?

ill chime in, why are you defeding cory as if it were your own car? lol, i think cory can speak for him self.

dont get mad jdmboy. its just the internet.

[blackice]

Wow everyones blowing this outta proportion. Every engine runs different and can benefit from a tune. It may not gain you a ton of hp for example but there is a whole thread about mrx working on tuning an f22a1 and he did see some gains albeit very small ones. Once you start adding things like an intake and exhaust you are opening the engine up and letting it suck and push out a lot more air and in my case unburnt fuel haha. I know there are several threads about simple things like i/h/e causing a car to run richer. Stock ecu's can only compensate so much for mods.

[KillerCam282]

because factory maps are the absolute "BEST" they can be? and this stock ECU running rich maximizes his performance?? with aftermarket upgrades?....even if they are bolt ons?.....im confused. isnt this what TUNING and adjusting the fuel/timing tables of a basemap is for?? joser or cory care to chime in?

I mistyped. JDM Ecu's run rich as a safety. A chipped Ecu tuned for the setup will maximize his performance, even with I/H/E. I know, that came at a great time for you! Anyhow, no need to call for backup Jose and I have been sharing tuning philosophies for quite a while.

Wow everyones blowing this outta proportion. Every engine runs different and can benefit from a tune. It may not gain you a ton of hp for example but there is a whole thread about mrx working on tuning an f22a1 and he did see some gains albeit very small ones. Once you start adding things like an intake and exhaust you are opening the engine up and letting it suck and push out a lot more air and in my case unburnt fuel haha. I know there are several threads about simple things like i/h/e causing a car to run richer. Stock ecu's can only compensate so much for mods.

He took advantage of some 2:30 AM EST I(give or take) typing on my part. At these times, my mind and my fingers are not in sync...per say.

[SMseagren83]

ill chime in, why are you defeding cory as if it were your own car? lol, i think cory can speak for him self.

dont get mad jdmboy. its just the internet.

im not mad, thats just how ur reading and interpreting it as....u my friend are misinformed,

i can defend a friend, and i already gave u credit for what u deserved! and u have made ur point that ur engine setup is capable of haning with H22s. im TRYING to set OTHER straight that think he doesnt need a TUNE.

im done-
enjoy ur thread

[blackice]

This really makes me want to dyno with the p13 then my tuned p28 with iabs lol. I'm expecting to see some significant gains and a lot less nasty smoke. I'll have to take a picture of my trunk lid and the lining, its covered in carbon.

[d112crzy]

dude, cory. you gota come to my house early thursday before we head out to juans so i can tune you for the trip. then we can have a three some.(race the 3 cars)

[NAiL05]

JDM ECUs do tend to run rich as mentioned. My p28 with egay chip runs way rich out of proportion even worse than that jdm one. I should ble purchasing a new chip from a friend though so that should help out a lot more. You can tune a p13 but I have heard its easier just to go with the p28.

[d112crzy]

p13's arent tunable yet, atleast not with uberdata or crome. you can however, get rid of knock sensor and a few things.

anyways, im gona be working on 2 separate NA h22's pretty soon, i can send you the basemaps some of them are running right now if you want.(nail)

oh, btw, ALL ecu's run rich. usdm or jdm, just the jdm run richest.

my stock pt3 would idle in the 13's, and at wot, it would get close to low 12's once in a while.

oh yea, i got 400miles on 12 gallons. thast with TONS of ripping on it.

great gas mileage+enough power to keep up with h22=fucking awesome!

[KillerCam282]

JDM ECUs do tend to run rich as mentioned. My p28 with egay chip runs way rich out of proportion even worse than that jdm one. I should ble purchasing a new chip from a friend though so that should help out a lot more. You can tune a p13 but I have heard its easier just to go with the p28.

Some people just get a VAFC. Either way, its much better than the JDM ECUs.

My Jose inspired thread: http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...753#post660753

[d112crzy]

hmm, can i mod move this to performance tech? im starting to think this doesnt belong in the racing forum, since my point of this thread was to show what tuning can do.

[NAiL05]

p13's arent tunable yet, atleast not with uberdata or crome. you can however, get rid of knock sensor and a few things.

anyways, im gona be working on 2 separate NA h22's pretty soon, i can send you the basemaps some of them are running right now if you want.(nail)

oh, btw, ALL ecu's run rich. usdm or jdm, just the jdm run richest.

my stock pt3 would idle in the 13's, and at wot, it would get close to low 12's once in a while.

oh yea, i got 400miles on 12 gallons. thast with TONS of ripping on it.

great gas mileage+enough power to keep up with h22=fucking awesome!

That would work if you wouldnt mind. As for the all ECUs run rich thats what I kinda mean since most manufacturers do tune them richer so people dont blow shit up. Ive seen people throw chips inside the p13 so I thought they had an ability to tune them. I heard that a while back so thought they made some sort of program for it already. But before that I have heard the p13 is not tuneable and if it was there are too many things to go into so dunno.