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    500whp/500wtq cb7

    A well respect number even to the big block v8 guys for an turbo 4 banger.

    I know a built-up engine turbo f22,h22/h23....can make more then 500hp, it it all in the tuning but do you think it possible to get 500whp/500wtq? would displacement help even the number out more(2.3L, 2.4L)? old tuning trick is to rich up the a/f to get more tq vs leaning out a/f to get more hp. but an old calculator i find on the web a long time back, I recall for an 2.2L making 500wtq there is no way it can make less then 550whp...

    anyway i think 500/500 to the crank is more easy to make then at the wheel.

    comment?
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    #2
    huh? Someone is making 500whp if not close to it on an f22 block as i recall on here. lodollar or osmething like that.

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      #3
      Originally posted by NAiL05
      huh? Someone is making 500whp if not close to it on an f22 block as i recall on here. lodollar or osmething like that.
      even match same number of Tq and hp. many sport sedan with supercharge v8 making 500hp/500tq. they use a 4.6L-6.4L to get that even number of tq with hp.

      I was wondering if our smaller displacement honda engine turbo can make that much tq? and keep the hp low enough to match it. Our smaller honda engine usually make great high end hp but lack on tq. so a build engine turbo on a 2.2L will likely net 500whp/406wtq or 675wHP/500wtq but very hard to get 500/500 number.
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      < 317WHP/227WTQ@11psi> B/W S256 turbo, Daily Driving on 93 pump gas - since 2006. Driving Turbocharged CB7 Accord since 2002.

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        #4
        is there a point in trying to achieve this eveness in numbers?
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          #5
          Originally posted by wed3k
          is there a point in trying to achieve this eveness in numbers?
          What he said. Your car would be hopeless at 500tq. All you would do is spin on street tire. Its pointless IMO. FWD is a bitch. Muscle cars can make 500tq and so on for a reason they can put it to a ground because of how the weight transfers. Put that on an FWD its a different story.

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            #6
            Why do you care if the car has even numbers? You could change alot of things in a build to favor power in the lower rpm's, such as cam specs and your choice of turbo, but I dont know if a turbo that is gonna put out that much power is gonna spool up in the lower rpm's and after 5252, you are gonna make more hp than torque, so you would have a narrow power band if you could set it up to have very close hp and tq numbers. I just don't see the practicality in it.
            more experienced people feel free to correct me if i am wrong.
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              #7
              it would be a drag motor....with like 30psi of boast and some race gas....no point on the street. unless you can run some drag tires on the street.

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                #8
                Something's wrong if you're pushing only 500tq on 30psi.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by d112crzy
                  Something's wrong if you're pushing only 500tq on 30psi.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by wed3k
                    is there a point in trying to achieve this eveness in numbers?
                    No point actually, just seeing lot of magazine posting many new sport car with even number lately, all usually with a v8 . Since with the new cafe 35mpg law, V8 will be less offered if not drop totally in new car soon. 500/500 is just a number i saw not a standard. going back to the old saying "there no replacement for displacement" while turbo virtually add displacement for the engine.was thinking if car maker later on offer 2.5L 4 bangger turbocharged to replace car that had v8.. would v8 truck/car owner ever accept it.

                    logically no honda 4 cyl engine would give up 60%more hp for 35% more tq..
                    I guess it will come down to driving habbit and need.. do you more use for a 450hp/205tq or 320hp/290tq engine...

                    sorry the post is kinda "other topic" just thinking out loud..
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                      #11
                      Blazen,

                      The HHR SS will be makin 260 hp/260tq from a 2.0 liter turcharged ecotec 4 banger. Must be a domestic automaker thing.
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                        #12
                        Just found this....

                        1.8 @ 20psi = 500 bhp

                        http://www.metacafe.com/watch/932190...turbo_500_bhp/
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by bigjoegood1
                          Blazen,

                          The HHR WW will be makin 260 hp/260tq from a 2.0 liter turcharged ecotec 4 banger. Must be a domestic automaker thing.
                          yeah must be domestic/other car maker thing... here just a few I recall..

                          2005 Pontiac GTO 400 hp / 400 ft·lbf
                          Chevrolet Corvette C6 6.0 L LS2 V8 400 hp / 400 ft·lbf
                          2009, Cadillac CTS-V supercharged 6.2 liter V-8, 550hp / 550ft·lbf

                          2008 Chevrolet Cobalt SS. 260hp/260tq Ecotec 2.0L DI Turbo VVT
                          2008 Chevrolet HHR SS 260hp/260tq Ecotec 2.0L DI Turbo VVT
                          2008 Pontiac Solstice GXP 260hp/260tq Ecotec 2.0L DI Turbo VVT


                          some other
                          1999 Mitsubishi 3000GT 320hp /315 lb-ft
                          2003 Evolution VIII 286 hp/ 289 lb-ft
                          2007 Subaru Impreza WRX STI Spec C Type RA-R 315hp/319 lb-ft
                          Crawford Performance 2004 Subaru WRX STi 450whp/450 lb-ft
                          90 Accord Coupe LX, Stock JDM H22A Engine 10.6:1 - Stock Automatic LSD MPA1 Trans, JDM P13 Auto ECU + JDM P19 TCU. Tune with Greddy E-Manage Ultimate
                          < 317WHP/227WTQ@11psi> B/W S256 turbo, Daily Driving on 93 pump gas - since 2006. Driving Turbocharged CB7 Accord since 2002.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by NAiL05
                            huh? Someone is making 500whp if not close to it on an f22 block as i recall on here. lodollar or osmething like that.
                            LoDollar92LX. He's currently pushing 526whp/400wtq at 18psi on pump gas. The problem is that he can't get traction until 4th gear. Granted, if you could manage 500whp/500wtq it would be huge bragging rights, but why? You wouldn't even be able to use it.
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                              #15
                              lol I always tell Honda-haters that Honda motors don't make low torque numbers for the horsepower. They make high horsepower for their torque numbers.

                              It's got some truth to it though. Hondas generally love to rev and horsepower and torque figures aren't really going to be comparable above 5252 rpm.

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