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    1. I've seen dsm's run in the 9's with a stock style manifold. I am using it for one, the ports fit perfect. It is cast iron, which is durable for a streetcar. When i buy a tig welder then i'll make a 3 foot long tubular manifold, but until then, there is nothing else for the f22a that compares to the DSM manifold. Log manifolds are garbage, and a big waste, and that is the only thing you will find for an F22a head.
    2. The EMS is the shit. It is one of the newer models with a built in wideband controller that has automapping by AFR... It has everything i could ever need plus more. Fuck burning chips... I have a GM boost solenoid that the EMS controls, and is for boost control. The EMS has traction control. You can use any sensor off any car with the EMS.....It is the best.
    Oh, and i already wrote a base map to 25psi. Obviously it will need tweeking, but it should run fine. I got the ems a few months ago for the reason of learning the system before i use it. And i learned it very well.
    3. The 60-1 is the shit. Most all compressor wheels out were made in the 70's. The 60-1 wheel was made in the 90s i think. It is a lot more efficient, and has a great surge line while supplying an awesome amount of air. I did all the calculations months ago, and the 60-1 is the perfect turbo for my setup. Yes i could of gotten a smaller 60 trim or 54 trim, but from what i've seen the 60-1 has a tendencey to put out the dyno #'s. I dont want a fast spooling turbo. I had a 14b on there and it spooled at 3000. 3000 rpm spool sucks. The 60-1 should be fully spooled around 4000rpm. That is exactly what i want. I'm using the H23 5spd so between shifts it will stay fully spooled.
    4. The internal wastegate is 38mm, and it runs out of a victory performance 02 housing which flows very well. I would rather run an external, but a good external setup is atleast another grand. Obviously i'm not going to boost it up to 22psi anytime soon. I'm going to gradually boost it up little by little and see how it does. I only plan to run 15psi on the street and i know it can flow enough for that. I'm just going to have to be very careful when i do decide to raise the boost. I'll just keep an eye on it...
    5.
    As you can see i put atleast 10 hours into the head.
    As for the intake manifold, that is a secret. I run a F22a6 lower on the H23 upper, but i took it apart, and fucking gutted it out. I big as plenium, and 4 short large runners. Took atleast 20 hours. Then it got portmatched and polished. The plenium is more then double the size of the H23 plenium.
    I'm using the stock H23 throttlebody for the next month. a 75mm tbody is on my "i want" list, but thats like $400...
    6. The delta 272 cam is on a 113 degree lobe seperation. It is fine. 114 is ideal for boost. Stock is like 116. I've been running this cam for a while. On my nitrous only setup the car gained huge power. Then with the 14b setup the cam worked awesome. No boost bleed off. It does not have much overlap at all. It think it is an excellent boost cam. I really loved it with the old turbo. The car would absolutely scream about 4000rpm, so it should work great on my new setup. From the specs of the cam, it appears to be good to 7400rpm, and even on the old setup, power never fell off to 6800rpm.
    7. In case you didnt know, single 2.5" piping is good to around 450hp(according to Corkey Bell). The 2.5" downpipe was custom made for my old setup. Between the turbo and the downpipe i have a very good flowing VP o2 housing. I'm going to use this setup for now, but plan to run the car open downpipe at the track. It is stainless steel. It cost me almost $500 to get made. I probably will be selling it sometime... I know a lot of people wouldnt mind bidding on that one... I plan to get atleast 3" to possibly 3.5" full custom turbo back done. I'm probably going to make it myself. This summer me and a friend are splitting the price of a tig welder...
    Anyway i have stuff to do... Peace
    12.5 at 114.6mph 15psi
    11.7 and 11.5 20.5psi
    F22a1
    60-1 td06h turbo
    Darton mid sleeves
    85.5 wiseco 8.8:1 forged pistons
    Crower pro billet rods
    Custom ported head.
    KMS valves
    F23 headgasket
    ARP H23 headstuds
    H23 upper intake manifold
    F22a6 lower intake manifold
    Intake manifold is gutted
    AEM EMS 1040u
    FIC 850cc injectors
    Walbro 255 pump
    H23 manual trans
    Prelude shifter assembly
    Forbidden short throw
    Nitrous Express Kit installed, never used on this motor

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      #32
      midnite racer x
      theo also went to R33's map and got off of the one i'd set for him. Neither of them remembered about theo's cam and they didn't compensate for it. By the time we were gonna send him a new map it was too late.

      i have the same setup that theo has i'm gonna be putting my head and turbo middle of next month i also am getting the 3angle job and stage 1 port and polish will u be able 2 give me the same map u were gonna try for theo and for how much

      H23vtec
      Kee Built/Tuned

      87x95 11.7 compression, custom h22 intake, minor head port polished, 70mm tb, 3inch cold air/3inch vstack, stock cams,ebay header with 3inch collector,3inch exhaust.

      9.0's at 81mph in the 1/8th mile ohh how i miss my baby.

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        #33
        DAMN. That dude up there is a hater.
        92 DA9 // 93 D21 4x4 // 92 CB7

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          #34
          question about dsm exh mani

          sorrying for being in the wrong post and being a noob but i am wondering if anyone knows for sure if the first gen turbo eclipse and talon exhast manfolds will work on a 91 dx head for a turbo manifold. I was going to design my own because i am not really for using parts of a car I would rather be killing with my homebrew and honda parts but if its cheap for now and easy thats always good too.

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            #35
            Originally posted by 91Cb7_inacan
            sorrying for being in the wrong post and being a noob but i am wondering if anyone knows for sure if the first gen turbo eclipse and talon exhast manfolds will work on a 91 dx head for a turbo manifold. I was going to design my own because i am not really for using parts of a car I would rather be killing with my homebrew and honda parts but if its cheap for now and easy thats always good too.
            reach much?

            or see the pics on the first page?

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              #36
              lol....

              Im still known......

              lol

              but yeah, it was time/age that did me in.
              I use to spray like hel;l(whole bottles, 75 shots on the highway)
              so yeah like my man Mid said, when its time its time.
              Also my man Tom has the car/set up now and i know he's gona get it right...

              on topic tho......... nice ass set up man, im loving the progress (im the one that use to ask u a lot of questions about it on HS)
              ive seen u come from Nitrous, to mild turbo/tunning with AFC to this, hell of a job man, let us know the numbers ot pull and times u make.
              NEED RAP BEATS.....

              www.soundclick.com/akcidentaltrakz

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                #37
                damn good job on the work mang
                keep us updated when you get it running

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                  #38
                  crazy shit.. wow..
                  *on the lookout for an h22 swapped 5 spd accord*

                  now for my P.O.S winter car/daily

                  1992 4dr escort lx hatch
                  NO MUFFLER-wrx sti tip(got fo free)
                  5 spd

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                    #39
                    Damn....put me my place, eh?
                    Newayz, like i said, I wasn't trying to be an ass, I just wanted to double check that everything was planned to run ewell as a system, ya know? Not just a bunch of expesive parts that don't work together. This was the first time I had seen you post about your setup, so...

                    Glad to here that you've got it all planned out, I'm still not sure about the 272 cam, but that's just me, however I'll give it a try once all of my ducks are in a row, with a dyno before and after. Gawd that EMS is too rich for my blood, but I guess the traction control, boost controller and all the other little gadgets make it a good investment.

                    You never answered my last question though...What kinda of rod bearings are you running in those Crower rods. Were thosestons and rods the engine combo that Race Eng. offers for like $1100??

                    Hopefully you'll get it all put together and to a dyno soon, I'd love to see some #'s. Bst of luck. ^_^
                    SOHC Non-VTEC F-series for life

                    "It is the fools prerogative to utter truths that no one else will speak."
                    -Morpheus (The Sandman)

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Wiccanvampier

                      You never answered my last question though...What kinda of rod bearings are you running in those Crower rods. Were thosestons and rods the engine combo that Race Eng. offers for like $1100??
                      ^_^
                      I'm running all honda OEM bearings. I did a lot of research. A lot of high hp cars run them. They are tri metal just like clevitte 77...

                      I did get the pistons/rods from Race Eng. Had it in like 2 days after ordering.
                      The rods are crower pro billet.
                      The pistons are custom made for Race eng by wisceco. They are very heavy duty components...
                      The rods were like $700 and the pistons/rings were like $500.
                      The honda bearings were a lot of money though, even with my discount...
                      12.5 at 114.6mph 15psi
                      11.7 and 11.5 20.5psi
                      F22a1
                      60-1 td06h turbo
                      Darton mid sleeves
                      85.5 wiseco 8.8:1 forged pistons
                      Crower pro billet rods
                      Custom ported head.
                      KMS valves
                      F23 headgasket
                      ARP H23 headstuds
                      H23 upper intake manifold
                      F22a6 lower intake manifold
                      Intake manifold is gutted
                      AEM EMS 1040u
                      FIC 850cc injectors
                      Walbro 255 pump
                      H23 manual trans
                      Prelude shifter assembly
                      Forbidden short throw
                      Nitrous Express Kit installed, never used on this motor

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                        #41
                        I figured that running OEM bearings would be the best solution. Definetly gonna be some trial and error, you did all the proper sizing and figuring out the color codes for each bearing right?
                        yeah, I priced the bearings already, they're like $7.50 each, and I'm a tech...crazy how a piece of metal can be so expensive, but i guess they're worth it since I'll need them in order for the engine to work, eh?

                        Did you get the rings and wrist pins from Race Eng. also?
                        Thanx for the info.

                        -Kyle
                        SOHC Non-VTEC F-series for life

                        "It is the fools prerogative to utter truths that no one else will speak."
                        -Morpheus (The Sandman)

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                          #42
                          somebody wanna give a quick run down on or 'how-to' on bearings and color codes?
                          Knowledge is power...in EVERY sense of the word

                          FSAE (F Series Accord Enthusiasts) ..."A dying breed thats taking it to the next level" #12

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                            #43
                            Stamped on the top of the block, and the bottom of the block there are letters. On the top it may say something like BBCB, and on the bottom of the block it may say CCDBC. The top letters are for the rod bearings, and the bottom letters are for the main bearings. This is the size bearings the factory used. The bearings are color coded. The ghetto way to do it is to put the bearings in, crank in, and plasticgage it, and torque it... The preferred method is to put the bearings in, torque them, and measure each bearing inner diameter, then measure each journal diameter, and subtract for the oil clearance... You will need a micrometer and an inner micromter adapter.
                            12.5 at 114.6mph 15psi
                            11.7 and 11.5 20.5psi
                            F22a1
                            60-1 td06h turbo
                            Darton mid sleeves
                            85.5 wiseco 8.8:1 forged pistons
                            Crower pro billet rods
                            Custom ported head.
                            KMS valves
                            F23 headgasket
                            ARP H23 headstuds
                            H23 upper intake manifold
                            F22a6 lower intake manifold
                            Intake manifold is gutted
                            AEM EMS 1040u
                            FIC 850cc injectors
                            Walbro 255 pump
                            H23 manual trans
                            Prelude shifter assembly
                            Forbidden short throw
                            Nitrous Express Kit installed, never used on this motor

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                              #44
                              Sup man its Richie, i finally found your CB7 screen name.

                              Why dont you have a Member's ride thread?

                              Oh well, imma see if i take my cam to work tomorrow so we can
                              have a little photoshoot.

                              O yeah, and we need to go out to a couple of meets

                              Hit me back up when you get a chance,....


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