Exhaust manifold flange question

[CB7Perfection]

hah no i aint doin it.. i have a dsm mani to lol

but for somone that knows how to weld its a good idea cuz flanges are only like 10 bux so that 40 bux cheaper. you can actully problebly just have an exhaust shop do wi'll their makin you exhuast.

i already have the manifold even though my son is hogging it so i can just save the work with the F22A6 partial Turbo Mani thing you are talkin about

[Mike]

hah no i aint doin it.. i have a dsm mani to lol

but for somone that knows how to weld its a good idea cuz flanges are only like 10 bux so that 40 bux cheaper. you can actully problebly just have an exhaust shop do wi'll their makin you exhuast.

[MRX]

when i was reading the part about weldin a f22 flange to the dsm mani it reminded me about a question i had in my mind for a while now..

y hasnt anyone taken the top part of a6 mani and just welded a turbo flange to that? u may want to renforce the mani a lil but i dont see y that wouldnt work other than maby clearence issues

there was a guy talkin bout doin that to an aftermarket mani cuz he allready had it. but im saprised with everyone doin budget builds on here i havent heard about anyone doin that with the 4-2 part of the a6 mani

im not recomendin u do that cuz u allready have the dsm mani but it was just somtin i was pondering

Why? dsm manifolds are like $50. Best of luck if u try it tho.

[Mike]

when i was reading the part about weldin a f22 flange to the dsm mani it reminded me about a question i had in my mind for a while now..

y hasnt anyone taken the top part of a6 mani and just welded a turbo flange to that? u may want to renforce the mani a lil but i dont see y that wouldnt work other than maby clearence issues

there was a guy talkin bout doin that to an aftermarket mani cuz he allready had it. but im saprised with everyone doin budget builds on here i havent heard about anyone doin that with the 4-2 part of the a6 mani

im not recomendin u do that cuz u allready have the dsm mani but it was just somtin i was pondering

[CB7Perfection]

the way i used to do it was to use an old F22 exhaust manifold gasket and mark where the holes need to be. when you do that you will see that the holes dont actually need to be "re-drilled". they just need to be slotted, and or made larger (not by much)



and no, a new flange will not help the front motor mount issue. the turbo literally sits right where it used to be, there is really no way around it.

understood, Accord R33, respected in my books. Thankyou very much i see exactly what you are talking about. the picture is very helpful. Would you happen to be in the TX area by any chance. Based on the guide that you have constructed there are some possiblities for you, possibly in my operation. and dont worry it is nothing illegal i own a buisness.

[Accord R33]

ok now if i read correctly "Accord R33" you are the one who posted the outstand Turbo Installation guide. Very inpressive indeed. Now if you do not mind i would like to add an addition to that for those who may be like me and are not to familar with this specific motor and the specific parts but are knowledgeable on the turbo subject, and post a preperation guide exactly what is needed for gathering, what has to get cut, drilled, etc. if that is ok with you. and to fill any missing links to your guide that may confuse some.

Now wat you are say is that with the exsiting holes on the manifold they will basically need to be expanded and nothing more. now with that extra clevage would it be smart to fill the excess space with something? and would using a manifold gasket for an F22 be a good guide to expanding the holes?

Ah! and one more thing, what if that flange can possible desipate the front strut mount issue, as in being able to keep it. its a 1/2" thick flange? i will check that out as a matter of fact. that is food for the thought.

the way i used to do it was to use an old F22 exhaust manifold gasket and mark where the holes need to be. when you do that you will see that the holes dont actually need to be "re-drilled". they just need to be slotted, and or made larger (not by much)



and no, a new flange will not help the front motor mount issue. the turbo literally sits right where it used to be, there is really no way around it.

[CB7Perfection]

just keep at it with the dremel dude..its something you only have to do once. when its over, its over. iv done about 5 of them with a dremel, it took me a few hours each.

What bit are you using? that might be your first problem.

I used this bit. (got it at sears)

Rather than trying to drill new holes, i used that to make the existing holes bigger. and to make the inner holes "slotted"

ok now if i read correctly "Accord R33" you are the one who posted the outstand Turbo Installation guide. Very inpressive indeed. Now if you do not mind i would like to add an addition to that for those who may be like me and are not to familar with this specific motor and the specific parts but are knowledgeable on the turbo subject, and post a preperation guide exactly what is needed for gathering, what has to get cut, drilled, etc. if that is ok with you. and to fill any missing links to your guide that may confuse some.

Now wat you are say is that with the exsiting holes on the manifold they will basically need to be expanded and nothing more. now with that extra clevage would it be smart to fill the excess space with something? and would using a manifold gasket for an F22 be a good guide to expanding the holes?

Ah! and one more thing, what if that flange can possible desipate the front strut mount issue, as in being able to keep it. its a 1/2" thick flange? i will check that out as a matter of fact. that is food for the thought.

[prodigymb]

a now, im use to things fitting fine with very little modifications. i tried looking on here to see exactly what you all did but all the old forums about it have been deleted i guess. there are now only 2 pagess for forced induction instead of 6 ot 7 as there was not to long ago. so im not quite sure exactly how i am to drill press the manifold. i would like to ask exactly how because im more familiar with the 1.8T motor(german) than i am the F22 even though im the only owner, but it seems as though most people on this site are really quick to just "go off" or "bash" someone. but i would like to know.

well you take your stock f22a exhaust manifold gasket, align the exhaust ports on the dsm manifold and teh gasket together. secure the gasket to the manifold use a permanent marker to mark the places where you need to drill which will be clear once u uput the honda gasket onto the dsm manifold, and then drill away until u dont see the marker anymore, test fit and repeat

[MRX]

This is a drill press from homedepot for $149


its just a machine...i could do the same thing with a cordless handheld drill but the press is easier

[Accord R33]

just keep at it with the dremel dude..its something you only have to do once. when its over, its over. iv done about 5 of them with a dremel, it took me a few hours each.

What bit are you using? that might be your first problem.

I used this bit. (got it at sears)

Rather than trying to drill new holes, i used that to make the existing holes bigger. and to make the inner holes "slotted"

[CB7Perfection]

lmao u drill the manifold man !

a now, im use to things fitting fine with very little modifications. i tried looking on here to see exactly what you all did but all the old forums about it have been deleted i guess. there are now only 2 pagess for forced induction instead of 6 ot 7 as there was not to long ago. so im not quite sure exactly how i am to drill press the manifold. i would like to ask exactly how because im more familiar with the 1.8T motor(german) than i am the F22 even though im the only owner, but it seems as though most people on this site are really quick to just "go off" or "bash" someone. but i would like to know.

[92ex]

it'd cost more for u to buy that flange and have it welded on. Also finding a competent welder that can weld steel to cast iron should be interesting. All that and you've greatly decreased the original structural integrity of the manifold. Just take it to a machine shop if u don't wanna drill it.

I welded my manifold, although my dad helped. Cast iron is no where near impossible, you just need an old school welder person.

I think he was talking about grinding the block, but who knows

[prodigymb]

why do u have to drill press the block?

lmao u drill the manifold man !

[MRX]

why do u have to drill press the block?

[CB7Perfection]

it'd cost more for u to buy that flange and have it welded on. Also finding a competent welder that can weld steel to cast iron should be interesting. All that and you've greatly decreased the original structural integrity of the manifold. Just take it to a machine shop if u don't wanna drill it.

the welding part will not be a problem have all the the stuff for that. its just drill pressing the block i i guess is what worries me.