Bigger FMIC or meth/water injection?

[h22sparkle]

Well if I went to a party and everyone was trying to get high off water....well I'd be kinda confused

lol

[bagoon316]

quick answer?? (cause i gotta go to work..)

50/50mix of water/alcohol = windishield washer fluid bottle (t3h cheap)

he is right, go to nasioc.com its for subarus, but we talk about it all the time. even for i/c sprayers, which carlos and i did with the reservoir, spraying onto the tmic u can feel a difference in a 3rd gear pull. sti's are equipped with the sprayer. also i read on nasioc that people runnin the mixed injection also run 12:1 afr's. on stock internals we push 13.7 psi, they will run about 18-20 lbs. on the mix with 12:1 afr's. i think it was cpmike, had all the benefits listed, if its tuned there shouldnt be a problem, and i know with all ur setups you have that at your fingertips so i wouldnt think it would be a problem for you.

[Boost_Lee]

great news....now i just have to see if the tuner i want tunes water/meth injection

[WiKKeDV16]

i have a question about water/meth injection.. when added to a car lets say a turbo ls/vtec (kekeke) would it lean out the mixture or richen it out. since the water/meth is cooling the chamber.. thus creating more power.. but at the same time is this raising the a/f ratio?

[d112crzy]

technically, I guess it would lean it out, since water has o2. But just b/c something cools it doesnt mean its gona be richer, or even leaner.

temps may lower, but the mixture can become leaner.

But thats why you tune in Lambda. 1 is the magical number here.

[MRX]

cooler air means denser air = should be leaner...theoritically.

[Boost_Lee]

anyone ever see dyno results from a simple tuning session before and after meth/water?

[MRX]

depending on efficiency i think it can be anywhere from 25-100+ whp...depending on the setup and how effectively you use the mixture because it resists detonation quite well.

[bjaccord]

I always thought it rchened the mixture up. The meth/water not only displaces air, but also the meth. or alchy is flamable.

Thats how I always understood it, but I could be wrong.

[Boost_Lee]

yea i think it does read richer, but as d112 said, the best readings are on lambda.

i think im going to invest in the devil's own kit. maybe change my boost plans to 25 psi

[WiKKeDV16]

i know ur going with a prefab kit, lee but u know me.. hehe.. i installed a "custom" setup on my friends civic

t3h engine:
Ls/vtec
ITR slugs (11:1)
t3/t4 .50ar/.63ar
9psi
ITR cams
Blockguard
arp headbolts
cometic hi compression headgasket


lol.. the look on all of ur faces is priceless.. (it was n/a before then he desided to just boost it as is)


anyway.. im only having one problem with my kit, i need something to keep the water thats in the line from going into the charge pipe once the kit has been turned off.. really isnt that bad of a deal i mean. shut the pump off and continue to boost for 1-2seconds and the line is cleared but i want a accurate way of clearing the line.


as for those wondering the increases of the water injection


before 50/50mix
-spun the shit out of 1st
-spun the shit out of 2nd
-wheel hopped in 3rd then kept moving forward


after 50/50mix (no changes to tune)
-banged the shit out of the limiter in 1st (7,800rpm)
-banged the shit out of the limiter in 2nd
-pegged the limiter in third
-finally caught halfway through 3rd gear

this is on Drag Radials btw