SUSP : 5-lug conversion (the all-prelude way)

[konig52r]

ok so just to make sure the front rotors and brake pads are for 98-01 prelude right? the lower ball joint is for 98-01 prelude and the upper ball joint is 90-93 CB correct? the half shaft should be the OEM CB accord shaft not the prelude and the driver side axle is from a 5th gen accord and the passanger axel is the OEM CB as well as the steering rack?

if all this is correct then you should lift the car up and make sure none of your components have gotten loose especially since you replaced the steering rack usually when you replace the steering rack you put locktite on the bolts so they wont loosen up

Yes all of that is correct. The only thing I did was put the cb axel on the driver side because it seemed as if the cd axle was too long. But the cb passenger axle was too short and kept popping out so I used the cd passenger axle but it feels as if its too long as well. Also when I turn in a parking lot or when I'm making a right turn from a complete stop, it sounds as if my axles make a single cracking sound. Not the same sound you hear when they need to get replaced. Idk if I'm making sense. Lol. Thanks for your info bro. I hope I can get this fixed. I feel that this issue is a huge setback on my car. I want to move one bu can't cause this issue is driving me insane. O and I did you loktite on my rack bolts.

[Frijoles]

Alright, I've been doing a lot of research about this, and I'm almost certain it's what I want to do.

However, a few people have said things that worry me. What I am pretty sure I will do is run the adjustable Civic UCAs with this set up. I have no issue reaming the hole, or anything like that.

People keep saying things like, they don't like how the Prelude knuckles handle, or how they feel, etc. Is this due to a change in some suspension angle other than camber? Or is this due to people not having their suspension aligned properly.

Do these knuckles have an adverse effect on caster or something?

[Davids92Accord]

Alright, I've been doing a lot of research about this, and I'm almost certain it's what I want to do.

However, a few people have said things that worry me. What I am pretty sure I will do is run the adjustable Civic UCAs with this set up. I have no issue reaming the hole, or anything like that.

People keep saying things like, they don't like how the Prelude knuckles handle, or how they feel, etc. Is this due to a change in some suspension angle other than camber? Or is this due to people not having their suspension aligned properly.

Do these knuckles have an adverse effect on caster or something?

I have completed my conversion and I am currently using oem EF upper control arms (I will get the skunk2 when the oem ones I have give out). The only issue I had was when I flipped the tie rods the aftermarket ones I bought had some play when installed so I had to put a nut in between the tightening nut to keep it from wobbling around. Other than that everything went perfect and I am currently daily driving my cb with no issues. I recently gotten an alignment and had no issues with to much camber and that's with no camber kit installed . You can't even tell that I am running EF upper control arms

[sonikaccord]

Aiyyo kids

The Prelude LCA does not work 100% with the Accord radius rods. Only one of the bolts line up.

Also, for the front, apparently the stock caliper bracket interferes with 07 Civic Si wheels???

Also u get a lot of positive camber with the Prelude knuckle AND arm.

Real talk, overall I would say the Odyssey setup is prob the better way to go, ESP if it uses the stock size balljoint and tie rod config.

Question:
Is this the only thing in the way from a direct bolt on prelude swap? I want to do away with my camber kit, if possible, and this looks like the best solution. Hopefully ESP would make/send me a bracket if that's the only issue.

Also, if the bb6 knuckle and LCA are used, is the 5th gen axle still needed?

If I can find these parts for cheap I'll let everyone know the details.

[cb9love]

Question:
Is this the only thing in the way from a direct bolt on prelude swap? I want to do away with my camber kit, if possible, and this looks like the best solution. Hopefully ESP would make/send me a bracket if that's the only issue.

Also, if the bb6 knuckle and LCA are used, is the 5th gen axle still needed?

If I can find these parts for cheap I'll let everyone know the details.

I have this set-up, I am using the lca from the lude and the radius arms from the lude, i am not that low so with the accord uca i had a lot of positive camber, i am trying the ef 88-91 civic crx uca now this seems to have helped with the positive camber. So depending on how low you are you may want the lude ef or cb uca.
Even with the lude lca i still found it necessary too use the cd driver side axel.

[sonikaccord]

Awesome post sir!

I'm looking to get a max of -2.0 degrees camber with an oem UCA whether it be the CB or EF. If I choose to use an adjustable UCA, I would like that to be the center camber angle to adjust +/- 1.5 degrees.

So I guess I'll give it a shot and see what happens.

[KrAx_Cb7-808]

For the guys wondering of the S2000 wheels it is a category sports rear wheel drive meaning they are staggered. For safety reasons HONDA made the hub bore centers different sizes front and rear so the consumers as well as shops DON'T mix the rear to front or left and right front to rear for tire rotations as its a real safety issue. Here are the specs i could find available. Idk bout other regions models options etc. but this what info found:

S2000 AP1 16x6.5 ET55 HB: 70.1mm PCD 5x114.3 Front 16x7.5 ET65 HB: 64.1mm PCD 5x114.3 Rear 17x7 ET55 HB: 70.1mm PCD 5x114.3 Front 17x8.5 ET65 HB: 64.1mm PCD 5x114.3 Rear S2000 AP2 17x7 ET55 HB: 70.1mm PCD 5x114.3 Front 17x8.5 ET65 HB: 64.1mm PCD 5x114.3 Rear 18x7.5 ET50 HB: 70.1mm PCD 5x114.3 Front 18x8.5 ET58 HB: 64.1mm PCD 5x114.3 Rear 18x8 ET45 HB: 70.1mm PCD 5x114.3 Front 18x9 ET55 HB: 64.1mm PCD 5x114.3 Rear Regions: USDM/JDM/CAN trim options: Base - Type S - CR(Club Racer) Regions: UKDM trim options: UE(Ultimate Edition) & GT ???