Legend Brake Swaps... things you ought to know.

[OEMaccord]

I believe the smaller one is on top, not 100% sure, but Ill find out when I change pads next week. I rebuilt the caliper with Legend seals so the pistons as well as the caliper are the same.

[usc]

Originally posted by OEMaccord
I believe the smaller one is on top, not 100% sure, but Ill find out when I change pads next week. I rebuilt the caliper with Legend seals so the pistons as well as the caliper are the same.

if the smaller one is on top, then they are NOT interchangeable. what most likely happened is to save on the cost of parts, the seals and the pistons are interchangeable. (i wouldn't be surprised if ALL honda 40mm piston and 36mm piston parts are interchangeable).

anyhow, if my suspicions are correct, then what i've posted thus far for the legend caliper is still true. you have ATR calipers, where the internals may be interchangeable, but the caliper as a whole is not.

[OEMaccord]

Looks like I was wrong, I found a pic of my calipers and this is the passenger side caliper(Left Legend caliper). So the top piston is the bigger one on a 6th gen ATR.



Here is also a pic of the part # on top of an ATR caliper.



note: The 2 pictures are not of the same caliper.

[usc]

... alright.

couple of things that throw me off:

1) the last 2 pictures you posted are on the same server but the first pic you posted is on another server.

2) if i follow your 2nd set of pics (the one that shows the calipers and pistons), by following the way the brake lines are, then the top photo should be the driver's side, not the passenger side. because the bleeder valve is on the side where the brake line is pointed. therefore, the smaller piston is up top, right next to the bleeder valve.

going by the assumptions made from the photos, the ATR and legend calipers are different. (perhaps only in the location of the bleeder valves).

[OEMaccord]

One is my work webspace and the other is my personal school webspace. I work at school therefore .ufl.edu in both urls.

Anyways I'll just take pictures of the caliper next week when I take them off next.

[BustedLX]

lol, you're going to love this thread.
http://www.importspeed-south.com/for...8771#post48771

[OEMaccord]

Here are some pictures of the caliper and pads. Top piston is the larger and the pads seem to wear evenly after 8k miles and has about 60% of pad material left.

[Kabuki]

Originally posted by BustedLX
lol, you're going to love this thread.
http://www.importspeed-south.com/for...8771#post48771

Damn, Busted... Tearing him a new one eh?

[usc]

um... it just looks like you have legend calipers. the bleeder valve and the sizing of the pistons are consistent for legends.

but since i don't know who and where you got the calipers from, i can only take your word that these are really ATR calipers from europe.

but in my opinion, you have legend calipers.

[BustedLX]

Originally posted by Kabuki
Damn, Busted... Tearing him a new one eh?

He's actually a cool guy, I've met him. I just think sometimes people stick their foot in their mouths and then try to save face.

It's ok I don't mind. I know of one way to mount them correctly (in the right direction) and still be able to bleed them correctly. But if that's what he claims is his "house's" secrect then he's guarding common knowledge.

[usc]

i'd imagine if there is enough play on the hose, and you have someone helping you, it's very easy to bleed this right. before mounting the calipers onto the car, just flip them 180 and bleed.

but i think for those who do not possess the mechanical and technical know-how to do this, they may have a hard(er) time finding a shop willing to bother to do it right.

when there's a will, there's a way.

[BustedLX]

Originally posted by usc
i'd imagine if there is enough play on the hose, and you have someone helping you, it's very easy to bleed this right. before mounting the calipers onto the car, just flip them 180 and bleed.

but i think for those who do not possess the mechanical and technical know-how to do this, they may have a hard(er) time finding a shop willing to bother to do it right.

when there's a will, there's a way.

Exactly, Just bleed them before you secure them to the bracket.

I still don't like that idea though. What if the car ever has to be serviced by some moron?

[networknewbie]

question why exacly wouldent it work if you take the left caliper and put on the right and vice versa bleeder onther right side so is the pistons why woudent it work ? please help
Thanks

[usc]

... it will work, just not recommended.

let's use this analogy: if you have some z-rated low profile tires that are uni-directional (meaning it must be mounted a certain way), do you think it's wise to disregard the tread design and just mount the tires backwards?

if your answer to the above is, "No," then does it make sense for you to mount a uni-directional caliper backwards?

[NutBucket]

IMHO for the bit of extra work to bleed with the caliper pointed up its worth it. What's a vacuum pump cost anyway, $30? Makes life simpler anyway since you don't need someone pumping on the pedal for you.