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    ** ACCORD TECHNICAL INFORMATION **

    Please look in here then search

    What is Vtec?
    vtec explained

    -Fizzbob7
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    MAIN RELAY:Hard to start when hot

    the main relay (located under the steering column/dash) also controls the fuel pump relay and is very well known for going bad and when hot inside the car, may not allow the fuel pump to come on until it cools for a minute or two......it WILL turn over, but won't fire up.......if this is the case, then you can get a new one from Honda for $70+ (damn) or you can usually get them online for $40 new or rebuilt (just as good, just needs some soldering done to make it work properly)......make sure it's the right one, because most parts stores will sell you the secondary main relay that plugs in the fuse box near the drivers side kick panel.....that one usually gives no problems.....and it's $30, so don't waste your money.....here are some helpful links and pics......

    Main Relay

    -Fizzbob7
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    speedo sensor-Speedo wack, S light blinking

    Speedo check


    how to fix it, detailed instructions!
    Last edited by HondaFan81; 01-09-2006, 11:49 AM.
    What makes me laugh about forums, is that no matter how much you try to help someone, they dont take the advice. Go ahead and do it the hard way.

    You got to respect what you drive, and appreciate what you have, making the best of what you got. and if that means putting CAI, HID's, a phat stereo system, and a idiot in the drivers seat...then so be it!

    Retro!

    Hater

    I love nooBs...They make me look good

    #2
    Pull CEL code

    Pulling CEL code....

    http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...&threadid=7159

    ^^^^as a reference, visually


    this is how to diagnose the CEL codes for the ecu. you find the blue jumper wire in the passenger kick pannel. and you run a line from one connector to another. if its a single digit code, it will flash quickly a bunch of times, just count them. if its double, like 21... it have two long flashes followed by one quick, then a pause and repeat.

    heres what they all are:
    00
    ECU
    Defective ECU

    01
    Primary O2 sensor
    Open or short in O2 sensor circuit, defective Primary O2 sensor

    02
    Secondary O2 sensor
    Open or short in O2 sensor circuit, defective Secondary O2 sensor

    03
    Manifold Absolute Pressure sensor
    Open or short in MAP sensor circuit, defective MAP sesnor

    04
    Crankshaft Position sensor
    Timing belt slipped, defective CP sensor

    05
    Manifold Absolute Pressure sensor
    Reading too low or too high, defective MAP sensor

    06
    Engine Coolant Temp circuit
    Reading too low or too high, open or short in circuit, defective ECT circuit

    07
    Throttle Position circuit
    Reading too low or too high, open or short in circuit, defective TPS circuit

    08
    Top Dead Center sensor
    Open or short in TDC sensor circuit, defective TDC sensor

    09
    Cylinder Position sensor
    Open or short in CYP sensor circuit, defective CYP sensor

    10
    Intake Air Temperature sensor
    Open or short in IAT sensor circuit, defective IAT sensor

    12
    Exhaust Gas Recirculation Valve
    Open or short in EGR valve circuit, defective EGR valve

    13
    Barometric Pressure sensor circuit
    Defective ECM (Barometric sensor)

    14
    Idle Control System Malfunction
    Defective IAC valve, defective fast idle thermo valve, throttle body

    15
    Ignition Output Signal
    Missing, defective or noisy Ignition Output Signal

    16
    Fuel Injector System
    Defective or malfunctioning Fuel Injector System

    17
    Vehicle Speed sensor circuit
    Open or short in VS sensor circuit, defective VS sensor

    19
    Lock-up Control Solenoid
    Open or short in LCS circuit, defective LCS solenoid

    20
    Electrical Load Detector circuit
    Open or short in ELD circuit, defective ELD circuit

    21
    VTEC Solenoid Valve
    Open or short in VTEC solenoid valve circuit, defective VTEC solenoid valve

    22
    VTEC Oil Pressure Switch
    Open or short in VTEC OPS circuit, defective VTEC pressure switch

    23
    Knock sensor circuit
    Open or short in Knock sensor circuit, defective Knock sensor circuit

    30
    A/T FI Signal A high/low input
    Defective AFSA line, TCM

    31
    A/T FI Signal B high/low input
    Defective AFSB line, TCM

    41
    Primary Heated O2 sensor heater circuit
    Open or short in Primary O2 sensor heater circuit, defective Primary O2 sensor heater circuit

    43
    Fuel Supply System
    Defective or malfunctioning Fuel Supply System

    45
    System too lean/rich
    Fuel supply system, Primary O2 sensor, MAP sensor, contaminated fuel, valve clearance, exhaust leakage

    48
    Lean Air Fuel sensor
    Open or short in Lean Air Fuel sensor circuit, defective Lean Air Fuel sensor

    54
    Crankshaft Speed Fluctuation sensor
    Open or short in CKF sensor circuit, defective CKF sensor circuit

    58
    Top Dead Center sensor #2
    Open or short in TDC sensor circuit, defective TDC sensor

    61
    Primary Heated O2 sensor
    Slow response, exhaust leak, defective Primary Heated O2 sensor

    63
    Secondary Heated O2 sensor
    Slow response, exhaust leak, defective Secondary Heated O2 sensor

    65
    Secondary Heated O2 sensor circuit
    Open or short in Secondary Heated O2 sensor circuit, defective Secondary Heated O2 sensor circuit


    TCU Codes:

    CODE LIST:

    1-Lock-up solenoid 'A' circuit open or shorted.
    2-Lock-up solenoid 'B' circuit open or shorted.
    3-Throttle Position Sensor circuit open or shorted.
    4-Vehicle Speed Sensor open or shorted - No signal from speedometer.
    5-Shift Lever Position Switch circuit shorted.
    6-Shift Lever Position Switch circuit open.
    7-Shift Solenoid 'A' circuit open or shorted.
    8-Shift Solenoid 'B' circuit open or shorted.
    9-Counter shaft or transmission speed pulse generator open or shorted.
    10-Coolant Temperature Sensor open or shorted.
    11-Engine RPM (Ignition coil signal) open or shorted.
    12-(No code 12 used)
    13-Main shaft speed pulse generator open or shorted.
    14-Linear (line pressure control) solenoid open or shorted.
    15-Kick down switch circuit shorted.
    Last edited by HondaFan81; 10-08-2006, 03:44 PM.
    What makes me laugh about forums, is that no matter how much you try to help someone, they dont take the advice. Go ahead and do it the hard way.

    You got to respect what you drive, and appreciate what you have, making the best of what you got. and if that means putting CAI, HID's, a phat stereo system, and a idiot in the drivers seat...then so be it!

    Retro!

    Hater

    I love nooBs...They make me look good

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      #3
      Spark Plug Info

      Spark plug info

      Here is what service manual calls out for:

      The following are to be replaced every 30,000 miles

      Normal driving:

      ZFR5F-11 (NGK)
      KJ16CR-L11 (ND or Nippon Denso)

      Hot Climates or Continuous High Speed Driving:

      ZFR6F-11 (NGK)
      KJ20CR-L11 (ND or Nippon Denso)

      Spark plug gap 1.0-1.1 mm or 0.039-0.043 in

      Torque plugs to 18 Nm or 13 lb-ft

      Note: Using other brand-named plugs than the ones mentioned above may hinder performance.

      Firing Order: 1-3-4-2

      -posted by hondafan81
      Last edited by HondaFan81; 12-18-2007, 05:47 PM.
      What makes me laugh about forums, is that no matter how much you try to help someone, they dont take the advice. Go ahead and do it the hard way.

      You got to respect what you drive, and appreciate what you have, making the best of what you got. and if that means putting CAI, HID's, a phat stereo system, and a idiot in the drivers seat...then so be it!

      Retro!

      Hater

      I love nooBs...They make me look good

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        #4
        vin # break down

        Sourced from 1991 Accord Service Manual and first-hand knowledge.

        Character # 1-3: Manufacturer Code & Vehicle Type:
        JHM: Honda Motor Co., Japan, passenger
        1HG: Honda of America, USA, passenger

        Character # 4-6: Model Line:
        CB7: Accord 2-door/4-door
        CB9: Accord 5-door

        Character # 7: Body & Transmission:
        1: 2-door, 5-speed manual
        2: 2-door, 4-speed automatic
        5: 4-door, 5-speed manual
        6: 4-door, 4-speed automatic
        7: 5-door, 5-speed manual
        8: 5-door, 4-speed automatic

        Character # 8: Vehicle Grade (U.S. Models):
        4: DX
        5: LX
        6: EX
        8: SE

        Character # 8: Vehicle Grade (Canadian Models):
        4: DX LX
        5: EX (4-door)
        EX-R without A/C (2-door)
        6: EX-R (4-door)
        EX-R with A/C (2-door)
        7: EX-R with ABS (4-door)
        8: SE (4-door automatic)

        Character # 9: Check digit:

        Character # 10: Model Year:
        L: 90
        M: 91
        N: 92
        P: 93

        Character # 11: Factory Code:
        A: Ohio Factory, USA
        C: Sayama Factory, Japan

        Character # 12-17: Serial Number:
        last 6 digits

        -posted by HondaFan81
        Last edited by HondaFan81; 10-02-2008, 01:06 AM.
        What makes me laugh about forums, is that no matter how much you try to help someone, they dont take the advice. Go ahead and do it the hard way.

        You got to respect what you drive, and appreciate what you have, making the best of what you got. and if that means putting CAI, HID's, a phat stereo system, and a idiot in the drivers seat...then so be it!

        Retro!

        Hater

        I love nooBs...They make me look good

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          #5
          Base engine breakdown

          Engine Model Breakdown....

          You can find your engine code by looking in the engine, by the front motor mount, under the upper radiator hose, near the timing check plug, left to the header. (pretty descriptive =)


          90-93 LX and DX = F22A1 (125hp)

          90-91 EX = F22A4 (130hp)

          91 EX Wagon and SE = F22A6 (140hp)

          93 LX 10th Anniversary Edition = F22A1 (125hp)

          92-93 EX and SE = F22A6(140hp)

          European engines = F22A9 2.2i

          F22A1:

          125 HP @ 5200 RPM
          137 LB-FT @ 4000 RPM
          8.8 :1 Compression Ratio

          F22A4:

          130 HP @ 5200 RPM
          142 LB-FT @ 4000 RPM
          8.8 :1 Compression Ratio

          F22A6:

          140 HP @ 5600 RPM
          142 LB-FT @ 4500 RPM
          8.8 :1 Compression Ratio
          Last edited by HondaFan81; 10-02-2008, 01:07 AM.
          What makes me laugh about forums, is that no matter how much you try to help someone, they dont take the advice. Go ahead and do it the hard way.

          You got to respect what you drive, and appreciate what you have, making the best of what you got. and if that means putting CAI, HID's, a phat stereo system, and a idiot in the drivers seat...then so be it!

          Retro!

          Hater

          I love nooBs...They make me look good

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            #6
            LUG pattern

            Rim Information....

            Stock Rim Sizes Offered:

            14" x 5.5"
            15" x 5.5"

            Bolt Pattern:

            4 x 114.3 mm
            Last edited by HondaFan81; 01-23-2006, 01:47 PM.
            What makes me laugh about forums, is that no matter how much you try to help someone, they dont take the advice. Go ahead and do it the hard way.

            You got to respect what you drive, and appreciate what you have, making the best of what you got. and if that means putting CAI, HID's, a phat stereo system, and a idiot in the drivers seat...then so be it!

            Retro!

            Hater

            I love nooBs...They make me look good

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              #7
              1992-1993 Accord Distributor Assembly Issue:

              This is straight from American Honda Motor Co., Inc.

              "American Honda has determined that the distributor bearing, a part in your car's ignition system, may not meet Honda's standards for durability. If it should fail, the engine may be difficult to start, or may not start at all."

              They offered a warranty extension in the past for 6 years from the date the car was first sold or 75,000 miles, whichever comes first and they would replace it for free.

              Anyhow, I just wanted you 92-93 Accord owners to aware of this issue.
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                #8
                ACCORD MAINTENANCE INTERVALS:

                ** Note: This is what I do with our 4th gen Accords based off Honda & Haynes manual suggestions **

                Every 3,000 or 5,000 miles:

                - change motor oil & oil filter
                > every 3,000 miles for city driving
                > every 5,000 miles for highway driving

                Every 15,000 miles:

                - replace air filter
                - replace copper spark plugs
                - replace distributor cap & rotor
                - check spark plug wires, replace if necessary

                Every 30,000 miles:

                - coolant flush
                - change transaxle fluid
                > ATF - Dexron/Mercon III
                > MT fluid - 10W-40 motor oil or Synchromesh

                Every 50,000 miles:

                - replace fuel filter
                - check platinum spark plugs, replace if necessary

                Every 100,000 miles:

                - replace timing belt, balancer belt, water pump (install balancer shaft seal retainer, if you have not already)
                - replace platinum spark plugs
                Last edited by HondaFan81; 01-31-2006, 09:07 AM.
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                  #9
                  HOW TO LINE UP THE IGNITION TIMING LINES:

                  When you look at the pointer there are two parts to it...well 3 if you include the 15 deg. BTDC line. I made a "key" below (ignore = signs, pay attention to rest).

                  INSTRUCTIONS:

                  Pointer # 1 has to be in the middle of pointer # 2...THEN both pointers #1-2 should line horizontally with the 15 deg BTDC line (middle of the 3 lines...the other two stand for +/- 2 deg ... or 13 & 17 deg. BTDC). If you follow these instructions, you WILL know you are looking at the pointers/15 deg BTDC line correctly. This is what I like about Hondas, for the most part they designed their cars to be worked on and make things idiot proof. You can tell they thought things out.

                  15 deg BTDC line = --

                  pointer # 1 = -

                  pointer # 2 = >


                  Diagram of what you should get:

                  -- ->
                  Last edited by HondaFan81; 01-31-2006, 09:09 AM.
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                    #10
                    HOW TO SET IGNITION TIMING:

                    ** Note: Use the post above as reference on how to line up the ignition timing lines **

                    1) Let engine warm up to full idle @ 750 RPM +/- 50 RPM

                    2) Install jumper cable on the 2-pin service connector located under passenger-front dashboard

                    3) Hook-up your ignition timing gun (one connector to positive battery terminal, one to body ground and the spark plug wire clip on #1 cylinder - one farthest right on driver-side)

                    4) Pull the timing plug located to the left of exhaust manifold to see the flywheel timing marks (manual trans.)

                    5) Point ignition timing gun at the flywheel

                    6) Line yourself up right (using post above this one) so that you are correctly viewing the ignition timing marks with the timing gun

                    7) Find where your ignition timing is currently and adjust accordingly via moving distributor housing:
                    - stock ignition timing is 15 deg. +/- 2 deg BTDC (before top-dead center)
                    - so your ignition timing range is 13-17 deg BTDC

                    8) To advance or retard the ignition timing at the distributor housing:
                    - face the distributor from the passenger-side front fender
                    - loosen up all 3 screws
                    - rotate towards exhaust manifold (clockwise) to retard ignition timing
                    - rotate towards intake manifold (counter-clockwise) to advance ignition timing
                    - make small adjustments, snug up 3 screws, check timing with gun again & repeat if necessary
                    - once timing is set, tighten up all 3 screws at the distributor housing

                    9) Remove jumper cable from the 2-pin service connector located under passenger-front dashboard
                    Last edited by HondaFan81; 07-26-2006, 08:59 AM.
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                      #11
                      COOLING SYSTEM ELECTROLYSIS PROBLEM!!

                      I was over at the Auto Electricians the other day dropping of another fucked Alternator and noticed he was checking the coolant on a car with a Multimeter, and it reminded me of some old reference material I had stored away, so when I got home I dug it out of the archives and re-read it. It was all about Cooling System Electrolysis and the damage it can do to the Engine due to POOR GROUNDING. So I thought what a bloody good Topic to Write Up for my friends at the CB7Tuner Asylum. So here we go.

                      Coolant Electrolysis Facts

                      An electrical current passing through the cars coolant can cause major system component failures, all due to poor electrical grounds and the build up of static electricity in the vehicle. Electrical grounding problems can stem from poor installation of Engine Swaps, aftermarket goodies or shit collision damage repairs. This CAN destroy all cooling system components and ANYTHING else coming into contact with the coolant, regardless of the quality of cooling system maintenance. Yes ANYTHING, that means Water Pumps, Cylinder Heads, Engine Blocks, Inlet Manifolds, FIV’s, Pipes etc., etc. Depending on conditions it can be as quick as 2 months before ruining a radiator. The only way it can be stopped is to correct the electrical problem causing the current. Damage resulting from an electrical current can range from Minor Pitting of Alloy and Metal Components, Internal Flaking of radiators, oil coolers or heater cores, to Severe Corrosion of Alloy & Metal Components, which is the No 1 Killer of Alloy Cylinder Heads & Head Gasket failure. If you have ever seen the underside of a fucked Cylinder Head and noticed all the corrosion, it’s not lack of coolant that’s causing it.

                      Testing for Electrolysis in the Cooling System.

                      A Good Quality Auto-Sensing DIGITAL Multimeter (i.e. Fluke) capable of reading both AC and DC currents is best to test cooling systems. The Multimeter leads must be long enough to reach between the Radiator Filler and the ground side of the battery

                      So How Do You Test It.

                      Using a Good Quality Auto-Sensing DIGITAL Multimeter, attach the Negative Multimeter lead to the ground side of the battery.

                      Hold the Positive Lead in the COOLANT, touching the Coolant Only. (Important: Do not allow it to touch anything else but coolant)

                      Check the AC & DC Voltages with ALL electrical systems OFF (heater turned on) and Note Down Voltage readings

                      Read the AC & DC Voltages during Crank and Note Down Voltage readings.

                      Read the AC & DC Voltages with the Engine running with ALL electrical systems OFF and Note Down Voltage readings.

                      Read the AC & DC Voltages with the Engine running with ALL electrical systems ON. - Lights, coolers, fans, heaters, air conditioning, Sound System, cell phone (if fitted), two-way radio (if fitted) and Note Down Voltage readings.

                      The above procedure will test a complete system, including an electrical current which can be generated by air bag suspensions. This is why complete grounding of all rubber mounted components is necessary.

                      Voltage of 0.0 to 0.3 is normal in coolant of Cast Iron Block Engines. A Cast Iron Block Engine will be destroyed, with time, by as little as 0.5 volts, and some engine manufactures are reporting as little as 0.15 Volts WILL destroy an Alloy Engine.

                      Note: The current will be “AC” if the problem is due to Static Electricity.

                      How To Locate A Problem

                      If the Cooling System shows an electrical problem with all the equipment turned on, turn off one thing at a time until you finally turn off the system that stops the electrical current. When the current stops, this will indicate the electrical system causing the problem.

                      Take a lot of notice to the Starter Motor as they can cause as much damage to the cooling system and engine as a direct connection to an arc welder can. This is due to the high Amps present.

                      Repair any Stray Current or Static Electricity problem ASAP.

                      ALWAYS change old coolant if a stray current is detected. The electrical current WILL DESTROY a properly inhibited cooling system.

                      So there you have it Ladies & Gentlemen. Another Easy way to test the Grounds in your car. I hope this help everyone in there future problem solving.

                      Good Luck

                      THE GURU
                      *This is a Guru Publication and adheres to all Copyright accredited to it.
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                        #12
                        OEM 90-93 ACCORD ENGINE BEARING ONLINE ORDERING CORRELATION CHART:

                        ** For those ordering OEM Honda 90-93 Accord engine bearings from Majestic Honda (www.hondaautomotiveparts.com), here is a correlation chart of their part description to service manual bearing color codes **

                        CONNECTING ROD BEARINGS:

                        A = BLUE
                        B = BLACK
                        C = BROWN
                        D = GREEN
                        E = YELLOW
                        F = PINK
                        G = RED

                        MAIN BEARINGS:

                        A = BLACK
                        B = BROWN
                        C = GREEN
                        D = YELLOW
                        E = PINK
                        Last edited by HondaFan81; 04-14-2007, 12:16 AM.
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                          #13
                          Stock Fuel Pump Information:

                          1991 Accord EX 5spd (F22a4)

                          Stock fuel pump
                          Manufacturer: Denso
                          Part # 195130-0550
                          Flow Rate: 120 lph (liter per hour)
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