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Old 12-28-2019, 12:08 PM   #1
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Building a Turbo F22; Questions

Good afternoon Cb7tuner,

Had just a few questions in regards to getting our engines ready for boost.
Original plan was stock block ~8psi 150hp. Figured if i was 5spd swapping my current cb, as well as installing an Mfactory LSD on the F trans, that I might as well just do a full build and make it 100%.

So far i'm looking at:
Port/Polish on Head
Bisimoto's Level 1.2 Turbo Re-grind,
Pro Springs,
Bisimoto's 86mm 9.1:1 Forged pistons / H beams (rings and all),
Turbonetics T3/T4 T04E Turbo,

I know Ill probably need injectors/pump but I couldn't decide on a decent set.
Is 250hp/270tq an unreasonable number with these? Also. Fully commited on the SOHC Turbo.
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Old 12-28-2019, 03:51 PM   #2
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Good afternoon Cb7tuner,

Had just a few questions in regards to getting our engines ready for boost.
Original plan was stock block ~8psi 150hp. Figured if i was 5spd swapping my current cb, as well as installing an Mfactory LSD on the F trans, that I might as well just do a full build and make it 100%.

So far i'm looking at:
Port/Polish on Head
Bisimoto's Level 1.2 Turbo Re-grind,
Pro Springs,
Bisimoto's 86mm 9.1:1 Forged pistons / H beams (rings and all),
Turbonetics T3/T4 T04E Turbo,

I know Ill probably need injectors/pump but I couldn't decide on a decent set.
Is 250hp/270tq an unreasonable number with these? Also. Fully commited on the SOHC Turbo.

Well some of these items are not required and some are. But at the same time if you have the engine open, you may as well replace some parts. To my knowledge head work is not required for your HP goals, but the bottom end is. Have you seen other folks setup on here?

http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=190348
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Old 12-29-2019, 09:16 AM   #3
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Well some of these items are not required and some are. But at the same time if you have the engine open, you may as well replace some parts. To my knowledge head work is not required for your HP goals, but the bottom end is. Have you seen other folks setup on here?

http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=190348
A List I wouldn't try to be on

Looking at some of those/ most only did bottom end work. Is that because the f22's head flows good enough as it is? I'm seeing mid 300's on just bottom ends. Will likely stick to just the bottom end / fuel upgrades for the time being.
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Old 12-29-2019, 08:57 PM   #4
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Yes the head with a mild port n polish will outflow an h22a head. Not needed though for your goals. If your looking for a regrind I would recommend either going with web or delta cam. Cost a fraction of the price and produces the same results and they are trustworthy.

As for fuel you will need at least a set of blue top 450cc or just go ahead and get ID800cc injectors. Fuel pump would be a good idea as well. A walbro 255lph will suffice.

Turbonetics is a good brand, however they can be expensive. You should look into Borg Warner, Holset, or Garrett.

You will also need to upgrade your clutch. OEM clutch will not last long. While your building the bottom end I would highly recommend replacing all the gaskets and belts as well.
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Ya, what he said. Bottom components as they will break and other components to make it work (fuel, air, good fire). Head work and port and polishes are not needed at this stage.
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Old 12-31-2019, 11:02 PM   #6
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Like everyone else said you definitely do not need the top end parts for your power goals. A stock f22 head will easily get you into the 350-400whp range. However, unless you plan on staying at 250whp for a while, I would suggest getting at least 800cc injectors. By doing so, you’ll have some room for growth when you’re ready to turn up the boost. I would also apply the same line of thinking when choosing your clutch. Overdoing it a little can sometimes help you avoid spending money twice.
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Old 01-03-2020, 02:05 PM   #7
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Yes the head with a mild port n polish will outflow an h22a head. Not needed though for your goals. If your looking for a regrind I would recommend either going with web or delta cam. Cost a fraction of the price and produces the same results and they are trustworthy.

As for fuel you will need at least a set of blue top 450cc or just go ahead and get ID800cc injectors. Fuel pump would be a good idea as well. A walbro 255lph will suffice.

Turbonetics is a good brand, however they can be expensive. You should look into Borg Warner, Holset, or Garrett.

You will also need to upgrade your clutch. OEM clutch will not last long. While your building the bottom end I would highly recommend replacing all the gaskets and belts as well.

I actually just purchased a set of 450cc bluetops. Will look into the Walbro pump you mentioned. Have continued reading around and picking up things as I go. Going to go with an exedy clutch, as the reviews I've seen for the cost, are pretty decent. Everyone seems mixed between ACT/Exedy.
All gaskets that I can see, or even get at while I'm there, will be replaced, with fresh belts.
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Old 01-13-2020, 12:12 AM   #8
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Personally I think with a built bottom end you could just grab a dsm setup with a 16g and be able to make your goals. It has been a few years but there was a dyno sheet on here that had that exact setup. As for the cam I would do as grumpy said and go delta or web. My delta cams in my ecotec have proved to be good.
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