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Upper Control Arms hitting, cut a hole?
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the cheaper the better, less interface corrosion, but 309L is a good filler from carbon to ss, then treat as normal. rubber spray the whole wheel well when done, paint or w/e topsideLast edited by illinois_erik; 08-04-2017, 10:48 PM.
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Originally posted by Corweena View PostYou probably could have avoided this altogether with an anchor bolt style camber kit, instead of the ball joints. The balljoint style are so much taller, and thus make the UCA sit much closer to the inner fender.I'm faster then a prius
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Based on how low you have your ride set, there would be interference with the control arm and the fender regardless of the style of camber adjustment kit. A lot of folks have cut their fenders for clearance, even on other cars. A clever metal fabricator can create something to "extend" the roof of the fender.
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Originally posted by Raf99 View PostHow would a body shop do this correctly? Weld the two pieces of sheet metal together and then add a cap?I'm faster then a prius
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Originally posted by Corweena View PostI'm faster then a prius
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The underside is what is most likely to rust. Covering it won't fix that problem. Cutting your car is NOT a smart move.
At the very least, sand the area thoroughly. Caulk around the area to seal off the gap between the two panels. Then paint it. Be sure you get every bit of it covered thoroughly. Once rust takes hold, you may never be free of it. Once it spreads far enough, important structural areas will be compromised, and your car will be scrap metal. That area isn't structural, but it's only a few inches away from the area where the shocks and upper control arms mount.
Honestly, the best way to deal with this issue (and one I would have suggested had I seen this sooner...) would be to either raise your car enough so that the arms don't hit, and/or run a little negative camber. A small amount of negative camber wouldn't make so much a difference in handling or tire wear that it would be unsafe. The slight decrease in tire life would be far preferable to the significant rust risk cutting or hammering your car poses.
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Whoa... good reference Corweena! I've never seen these as "off the shelf" items. I guess it's all a matter of trim-to-fit, but the concept is solid.
I had a neighbor way way back in the day who was into mini truckin' and I remember him hacking up his front fenders and basically gutting the bed of his pickup so he could bag it and lay frame. Not quite as extreme, but the idea is the same.
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Based on this image:
only raising the car would remedy the contact. Adjusting the camber would only shift the point where the contact is made by a few fractions of an inch. That impact point that is circled appears to be the stud of the sliding ball joint hammering at the fender. Unfortunately he wasn't able to get the slim version of this kit with the shorter stud and nut. I do not know though if that would have been enough to avoid contact.
With a sheet metal cap, similar to what Corweena linked, all of the areas beneath the cap should be addressed first (sealed up and painted). I would even take it as far as trimming away the fender to match better with the cap. A round hole underneath a rectangular cap would create pockets in the corners where water and road debris could accumulate. After it's all sealed and welded: prep, primer and paint (maybe truck bed liner underneath) to finish it up.
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Originally posted by deevergote View PostThe underside is what is most likely to rust. Covering it won't fix that problem. Cutting your car is NOT a smart move.
At the very least, sand the area thoroughly. Caulk around the area to seal off the gap between the two panels. Then paint it. Be sure you get every bit of it covered thoroughly. Once rust takes hold, you may never be free of it. Once it spreads far enough, important structural areas will be compromised, and your car will be scrap metal. That area isn't structural, but it's only a few inches away from the area where the shocks and upper control arms mount.
Honestly, the best way to deal with this issue (and one I would have suggested had I seen this sooner...) would be to either raise your car enough so that the arms don't hit, and/or run a little negative camber. A small amount of negative camber wouldn't make so much a difference in handling or tire wear that it would be unsafe. The slight decrease in tire life would be far preferable to the significant rust risk cutting or hammering your car poses.
I'm going to sand it, throw etching primer on it, put fiberglass over the gaps in the panel, paint it, call it done (at least until I find out how to cover it).
Actually today, for the sake of research (actually a couple errands I had to do this morning) I drove around while it was sprinkling outside on wet roads with the holes how they are (haven't touched them since cutting them). I checked under the hood after getting home, and nothing was wet! Control arm was dry, and the bare metal surrounding the holes didn't even have any flash rust from getting wet. Kind of what I was expecting, the tire isn't directly underneath the hole, and the control arm covers most of the hole. So far so good!I'm faster then a prius
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